Frank
Thank you for joining us.
Frank
This is episode 78 of amateur 3D podcast,
a podcast by amateur printers for amateur printers,
where we share our thoughts and experience.
Our panelists this week are me, Franklin Christensen
and my friends, Andy Cottam, Kevin Buckner and Chris Weber.
How’s it going guys?
How’d it go?
Andy
It’s nice to have you back.
Kevin
Pretty good.
Frank
I actually haven’t even produced last week’s episode yet.
Did you, did the train fall off the rails
with you running it, Andy?
Andy
I took over the world.
Frank
Without me?
Andy
Yeah
Frank
Why?
Andy
you leave a power vacuum, you get what you get.
Kevin
And you don’t throw a fit.
Andy
Yeah, it worked out pretty well.
Frank
But,
I’m not throwing a fit, you’re throwing a fit.
Chris
A power vacuum. That’s like my shop vac, man.
Kevin
Must be Dyson brand.
Frank
I don’t know, the power vacuum I left behind
would be more like one of those little dust devil
handheld things.
Chris
Little keyboard cleaner.
Frank
Yeah, not much of a vacuum, I don’t think.
Andy
But yeah. It went well, we have some good conversation.
Frank
Good.
I’ll be sure to comment on those conversations later tonight.
So,
Chris
But at least everybody’s going to get a really nice joke from me for Easter.
Yeah, I posted that picture of my dyed eggs.
Frank
I did see that.
One of them actually looks like it died.
It’s dyed to look like it died.
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, the other one’s supposed to look like the mask of Agamemnon or whoever from Crete.
Andy
Oh okay.
That makes sense.
Chris
That’s a death mask… egg.
Frank
I guess I see it now, yes.
Chris
Yeah, it didn’t come out nearly as well as I was hoping, but whatever.
Frank
Story of my life.
Kevin
Prick it.
Andy
You look sad.
Frank
Kind of.
Chris
I was like, uh-oh, we got here.
Andy
Oh, okay, that makes sense.
Frank
So, does anybody want to go first?
Andy
Not intentionally.
Kevin
Crickets.
Chris
What have we got here?
Frank
I’m going to have to get a crickets soundbite to throw in there.
Or just use Kevin’s.
I think I’ll use Kevin’s.
Chris
There you go.
Frank
Make a note of that, real quick.
Chris
Yeah, still haven’t got the parts for my printer, so I got nothing.
Frank
Not fun.
Andy
Okay, and you got some, you got like that kind of volcano hot end on yours, some similar that’s a little tougher. Yeah.
Chris
Yeah, I do.
Frank
Oh, the one that he and I identified when you and Kevin were gone, that it reds halfway through the hot end, with the hot end on it, or not the hot end, the heat block on its side, so it’s like, takes up half of the heat block.
If it works, I mean, why not, but.
Chris
Yep. I mean, it works great.
Andy
I think they were just trying to increase the melt zone size, and they did it quite, quite largely, I got to admit.
Frank
Yeah, and.
Chris
So yeah, well, it came highly, highly recommended as a good starter FDM. So
Frank
And all things being equal, it has been good to you for what a year and a half now.
Chris
yeah, I haven’t even had to touch the nozzle. And then as soon as I did though.
Frank
I guess closer to 2 years, huh? Because we started the podcast.
Near the end of the 1st year of ownership for you guys with your printers.
So, that’s not bad.
Chris
Yeah. So ran for two and a little bit, two years in a few months before I started to have a nozzle issues.
Frank
And we didn’t even talk about your nozzle until just the last couple of weeks. So.
You hadn’t had any serious issues with it.
Chris
Yep.
Frank
Well, keep us posted then. Did you work on anything else you want to talk about?
Chris
No, no, just, you know, having vehicle issues.
Frank
Sounds like a.
Cobbler’s children have no shoes type situation, except for in your case, as the mechanic with the calling, you never have a good running.
Chris
Yeah. Well, you know, yeah, you know, timing belts.
Frank
They’re not your favorite thing in the whole world?!
Chris
Well, sometimes they’re honking easy and other times they’re a pain in the nuts. The wife’s car
is somewhere in between, you know, get a couple cashews and it’s all the nuts I need for it.
Frank
Here, I was thinking, like a nut. So.
Chris
Well, some nuts are more painful than others. Like, have you guys ever tried to
get a open a Brazil nut? That is a very painful nut to open.
Frank
Actually, I like the joke they tell in that Rock movie, he’s in Brazil and he says, so.
What do you call these in Brazil? And they, she says, they’re just nuts. This is.
No, he says these Brazil nuts are awesome. And she looks at me and goes, this is Brazil. They’re just nuts.
Yeah, I like to miss quote Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson.
Chris
Rock “The Dwayne” Johnson?
Frank
Rocktapuss. Have we talked about all of the things that people have modified in the three 3D printing world to have The Rocks head on it?
Chris
Oh, man. So I’m going to, I’m going to say the one I saw lately was our Rocktachu.
Frank
I haven’t seen the Rocktachu. I can imagine it though. That would be awesome.
Kevin
I have not heard of this.
Frank
I don’t even know it… I would be surprised if there wasn’t like a whole subreddit dedicated to modifying statues to have the head of The Rock.
Chris
I know that there was a particular poster on Thingiverse that had loads of Rock Johnson stuff.
Let’s see.
Frank
So like this little, this little octopus. I’m sure you’ve seen some of those Kevin.
Kevin
Yeah
Frank
Imagine that with the head of The Rock on it instead of the, the head of the octopus.
Kevin
That’s funny.
Frank
And it’s awesome. It’s hilarious.
I think that he would be amused by it if he cared to find something like that.
Kevin
I’m sure he would be.
Frank
He seems like that kind of easy going.
Chris
Okay. Here we go. Just posted a link, a link for you guys to the Rocktachu.
Frank
All that is so much win!
Chris
Right.
Frank
Like, like it’s a low poly Pikachu.
Chris
Well, this one’s a low poly and then there’s another one that’s a high poly. Yeah.
Frank
Oh, that is so much win!
I’m actually, this is going on the list. This is going on the prints.
Kevin
Wow!
Frank
And they’ve got three different versions of it. One where he’s looking up, one where he’s looking down and one where he’s looking straight ahead.
Chris
On that one.
Frank
Yes, this is absolutely going in my collection.
Andy
That’s pretty funny.
Frank
Oh my gosh. I’m a fan.
Chris
Oh, your gosh.
Frank
Yes. Oh my gosh.
Kevin
No, it’s my gosh, and I would like it back, please.
Chris
I’m using it.
Frank
For some reason, I think you and I were saying gosh Chris and I think Kevin make gauche.
Kevin
I said gosh.
Frank
Yeah, but you mispronounced it.
Chris
Is gauche like some sort of, is gauche like some sort of food or I’m missing out.
Frank
I don’t
Chris
Okay.
Kevin
No.
No, the only the only definition.
Frank
Lacking social experience or grace is gauche.
According to Miriam Webster
For whatever Webster’s dictionary tells you
Kevin
Right.
Frank
I tend, I tend towards the, the English one.
Chris
I guess I have lots of gauche.
Kevin
Oxford?
Frank
Oxford. Yes.
I prefer the Oxford dictionary, even though we don’t use half of the spellings in America because we’re weird.
Andy
America definitely is weird.
Frank
It’d be so easy to fall down that hole.
Webster contracted with a local prison to have the prisoners
Collect words and define them. This was back in a time when most prisoners were expected to be, you know, like White Collar.
Chris
Oh, I was like, oh, the original urban dictionary.
Frank
A good portion of white collar anyway.
And then he just turned around and published it with some of his own modifications getting rid of
Andy
It’s avoid that.
Frank
Spellings like the OU in colour and favour and all that.
So some of this simplification kind of makes sense because English does a lot of complex weirdness.
Chris
Well, it’s, it’s, well, it’s, it’s Americanized because less, less letters and a word with the same sound means that you have to use less type print.
You have to, you can use less paper or you can use less ink, you know, let’s
Kevin
And it also came from having to use less lead.
Because that was back when they would have to like…
make their own…
Chris
Oh yeah, they’d have to cast the type.
Kevin
They’d have to.. yeah.
Cast the letters.
I mean…
Until they eventuall got a collection of them and they could just pull out the drawer and put them together.
But sometimes they woud still cast whole words, which is where we get the term cliche.
Because of the sound it would make when making… casting… the whole word.
Frank
I actually didn’t know that etymology. That’s cool. I’ll have to remember that.
Chris
But now we can just 3D, I can just 3D print rubber stamps all day, every day, or TPU stamps.
I’m going to have to
Andy
Yeah, that’s true. Have you made any good ones of those anytime soon?
I made some a while back that I just took an old bic pen and, you know, made some PPU stamps and that worked okay.
It was fun for the kids.
Chris
I got stamp pads at work. I was thinking it might be fun to like make myself a stamp to put on various paperwork.
I’m not sure what it should say yet, but you’re like, this, this page intentionally, intentionally stamped or something like that.
Andy
The page not intentionally left blank.
Frank
So in the military
I can’t speak for how all branches do it, but I know the Navy keeps logs
Everywhere there’s a watch that is stood a security watch and usually like it’s just an hourly check in in the log
“Nothing to report” type stuff. And in those situations while in any situation if you don’t use the last line of the log
And I can’t remember what the actual policy was. I think they allow you like three or four at the bottom of a page
But if you have more than that, then you have to do a diagonal line through it and you have to
Notate it saying that there are no more logs for that day and that they’re carried on to the next page
Between that
Chris
Oh, I would do some insane stuff like, Oh yeah, Jerry the spider finally caught us a little fly in the corner.
Frank
Some have some have its official logs. You can find them in the the because ship’ logs have been made publicly available.
What’s that act?
Kevin
Freedom of information?
Chris
Yeah, the Freedom of Information Act. Yeah.
Frank
Yeah, freedom of information. So any logs that are older than what is it 1520 years as long as they don’t compromise security have been made publicly available and people have done it.
Sometimes it’s even acknowledged by the supervisor who comes out and says, yeah, actually I did see this so I they they initialize themselves.
Chris
So, so I saw the little spider in the quarter eating corner eating a fly. Nice.
Frank
Oh, it gets absolutely dreadfully boring sometimes. So whatever it takes to stay awake most of the time no one cares.
Well, most of the time
Chris
Most of the time.
Frank
within reason. Don’t don’t do stupid stuff.
Chris
Can I sexually assault myself.
Frank
No, not on watch. If you want to do that in the privacy of your own bathroom. That’s fine.
Andy
I a-salted my kids yesterday.
And then they took the salt from me and a-salted.
Chris
I was like, Well, that normally I was I was thinking about scratching my butt, but you know, sexually assaulting myself.
Hey, I just grabbed my own butt.
Frank
This conversation is weird.
Andy
Yeah, It did get weird.
Kevin
Let’s let’s bring it back to 3D printing, I think.
Frank
Sure, Kevin, what did you do this last week.
Kevin
I did nothing with my 3D printers.
Because on Sunday, I had taken my knitting project to church.
and um, I… on row three of this blanket.
I mean, I say row three, but it’s actually row three of the section.
so it’s actually row… I don’t know… like… 60 or something.
Anyway, I made a mistake.
And I ended up adding a stitch and I thought, okay, well, I’ll just
combine two stitches at the end of the row.
And it should be fine.
stitches at the end of the row and it should be fine. When I got done with row 7, now there are 314
stitches per row, that’s important. When I got done with row 7, I laid it out and looked at it and
saw that it was not fine. Not by a long shot.
Chris
Wow.
Kevin
So that meant that I had to tink back to the point
where I made the mistake, fixed the mistake and then go forward. So I spent pretty much all of my
free time during the week working on fixing that mistake.
Frank
That’s a big mistake. It sucks.
Kevin
Yeah, I mean it was a little mistake but it had big consequences. Yeah.
Frank
Kind of like life.
Chris
Or a zip tie underneath in a pallet jacks path, you know.
Frank
If you have enough momentum, the pallet jacks usually don’t care about and zip ties though, or people or rocks.
They’re small enough.
Kevin
But that’s, once you get enough momentum though,
Frank
Yes.
Kevin
if you don’t have enough momentum,
then that little zip tie will be too much for the pallet jack to handle.
Chris
Very, very big problem.
Frank
I never experienced this.
Chris
And then you have jars of, and then you have broken jars of pickle all over the floor.
Frank
Every time I’ve used a pallet jacket, it’s always had enough momentum.
Chris
Well, having been a janitor. Yeah, that was exactly the case. Some, some years ago, like maybe 2006 2007.
A employee was really, he was cruising relatively normal, you know, about regular walking pace with a pallet of those one gallon jars of pickles.
He found a he found a zip tie up by the registers and yeah, I was called to clean it up.
Kevin
I thought it was speaking of being a janitor at that location or company rather because it wasn’t
the same location. I got in trouble one time because I referred to myself as a janitor at
that store.
Chris
Yeah, they’re like, no, it’s maintenance and you’re like, you’re like, I’m, I’m cleaning the toilets. I’m emptying the garbage cans. I’m mopping the floor.
What do you, what do you really want to call me.
Kevin
You’re a maintenance associate, you are not a janitor. We don’t use that word here
but that’s what it is.
Chris
I’ve, I’ve changed.
I’ve changed two light bulbs in my entire career here. Come on.
Kevin
Yeah, so they got after me for saying that and I said, okay, tell me something. Does my job
description include cleaning toilets and empty and garbage cans?
And they said, well, yeah that is your job.
And I said, okay, does my job description include fixing anything?
Well, no.
I was like, okay, I am a janitor, not a maintenance associate. Maintenance implies fixing things.
Frank
Or at least maintaining it.
Kevin
Right. And they’re like, no, you’re maintaining the cleanliness of the store.
Kevin
Like, okay, yeah.
Chris
The cash, the cashiers do that too but
Frank
Actually, you know, that’s when I look at you and go, okay, you’re abusing the word, but yes, okay.
Kevin
Yeah. Yeah. And so like, I felt like they had kind of deceived me when I applied for that position
because I’m like, hey, maintenance, I could fix things.
Frank
I want to, I can do this.
Kevin
And then they’re like, okay, here’s your mop.
Frank
Truth and advertising has never been done.
Chris
Yeah, the only one that ever fixed anything at my location was the maintenance guy.
All the other maintenance crew just cleaned stuff.
Like, and so I was the only person that had some experience fixing stuff, which is why I only, I only ever ended up changing like two light bulbs, because the cashiers and flip on their light and they’re like, Oh, my light’s not working.
Maintenance.
Frank
How many managers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Chris
All of them.
Chris
And, and, and Rico and we didn’t he didn’t even, he doesn’t even work here.
Kevin
And speaking of all that though, I heard a couple weeks ago that they’re getting rid of all of the
self checkouts.
Andy
Yeah.
I noticed in the Walmart down in, uh, Syracuse, Utah down here that they have gotten rid of most of their checkouts
but I was talking to the cashier up there, I was asking…
How is it going back to this way?
And she was not happy about it.
So, I don’t know, I mean that’s just the N of 1 but uh
Kevin
Well, yeah. Well, that’s because they actually have to do some work.
But when I was working at Kmart as a cashier, and they put in the self checkout,
I looked at that and said, that’s a terrible idea.
Frank
For the young people, for the young people that are listening to this podcast, Kmart used to compete with Walmart.
Andy
Sounds so funny now when you hear it.
Frank
And they used to be a big box store.
Chris
Well, apparently, came out still in business in a small, small area of the United States, but yeah, Walmart did them in. Yeah.
Kevin
Yeah. But yeah, so, but I looked at it and said, this is a terrible idea.
Like, I thought loss prevention was a goal here.
Chris
Yeah, like, it’s like that guy that, you know, put a PlayStation five on the, on the thing and then said it was like bananas or something. And so we got charged for the weight of bananas on his PlayStation five.
Frank
I find that suspicious just because they don’t actually hand you the device until you’ve paid for it.
Chris
Um, well, it depends.
Frank
It’s behind the cage, somebody either walks you to the register back in the electronics area and you pay for it there, or they take it up front and you ask for it when you get to the register.
So…
Chris
Well, somebody actually did get charged for that but that was like, I think it was, it was a more upscale, you know, more upscale town where they don’t necessarily do do that but I thought that was kind of weird but whatever.
Frank
Well, there’s a lot of head canon that get’s treated like…
Kevin
Well,
Chris
The policy. Yeah.
I think the policy is for the, yeah, the expensive electronics to be behind the, behind the cage and then employee has to open the cage and give it to you as you pay for it. Yeah.
Frank
That’s always been my experience.
Kevin
that’s, that’s how it worked with the PlayStation 2s when I was at Kmart.
Frank
And I’m a fairly trustworthy person. So…
Kevin
Yeah.
I was one of the few people allowed to put one on layaway, but that’s because I worked there.
And even then I had to have an escort from the electronics department back to layaway
until I had actually put the first payment on the PlayStation 2 and it was secured behind the layaway counter.
Chris
Anyway, I’m saying that this actually happened so I don’t know how it happened but
Kevin
I believe it could happen somewhere because you do get people who were like,
yeah, this is what the policy says, but I don’t want to deal with that. So, yeah.
Frank
I’m going lazy today.
I’m never underestimated.
Kevin
And there are actually, there are those stores, like Frank said, that say, well,
you either pay for it here or you have to pay for it up front. And so he probably was like,
oh yeah, yeah, I’ll totally pay for it up front. And then took it through the self checkout.
Chris
And then he did pay for it up front.
Rang it up his bananas.
Frank
This is bananas.
Chris
Yeah, but realistically, yeah, that’s, that’s the whole thing that various stores are pushing they’re going. Okay, yeah, many too many people are hawking stuff at the self checkout and I’m like, huh, I wonder why.
Kevin
Who could have seen that coming?
Frank
I did notice my, my local Walley World.
Half of the self checkout was cut down.
Inoperable. And now that it makes sense to me that they were like that. They were staging it for renovations.
Chris
Like my local mall of warts went like full scale. They had like three of the old style registers, and the whole rest of the front end was converted into this big massive self checkouts.
Frank
That’s how mine was.
Chris
And I’m going, and now they’re, now they’re walking that back I’m like, oh geez that’s horrible and expensive.
Andy
My only fear now is going to be checkout times.
that’s one thing that wasn’t too big of a problem when you come to the checkout was checkout times.
Frank
They’re not going to hire any more tellers than they have in the past. There’s only going to be too open.
Chris
Right.
Kevin
They’ll, they’ll still have two, even though they’ve got a bank of like 30.
Frank
Right.
And even, even during the holidays, even during the holidays, they only have like four of them. So I mean,
I don’t know why they need three dozen lanes for tellers.
Honestly, I think that’s why they thought, Hey, you know, let’s just use this space for self checkout because then people move through here at the speed they want to.
Andy
Yeah
Frank
And we don’t need to hire more tellers.
I don’t know. It’s hard.
We talk a lot of crap about Walmart and other places that do the self checkout, but at the same time it’s like that there’s value for it too.
Chris
there was good reason for it, but
Frank
Yeah. So whatever it is what it is.
I don’t think anybody would accuse the current board at Walmart of being especially socially aware.
Chris
Yeah, well you know I keep seeing posts about gear teams and things so I think that too, you know.
Frank
So…
maybe they are socially aware and they’re trying to avoid.
A, the Walmart revolution. Oh my gosh, you know how a demolition man, he ends up in the future and they talk about the corporate wars.
And the survivors were Taco Bell.
Chris
Taco Bell.
Frank
And so they own all of the restaurants in the future and stuff like that.
Chris
Yeah, that was great.
Frank
We might be verging on an actual war of war of commerce.
And, and mixed with the Star Trek’s predictions in 2024 of like Bell riots and the Irish reunification and all that other fun stuff.
Chris
Irish.
Frank
This is going to be an interesting year if any of those predictions come true.
Chris
I still want to put my money on the Irish unit reunification that would mean so much for the UK right now.
Frank
They didn’t really handle the whole Meghan Markle thing.
She wants some privacy so we’re going to put up some some fake photos to get people to leave us alone.
I mean, all they really had to say was she’s having some medical trouble and we would appreciate it if you respected her privacy.
And I think 90% of people around the world would have been like, fair.
Chris
Well, no that wasn’t Megan Markle that was the other the princess of Wales.
Frank
Oh, whatever. Those how well I know.
Chris
But anyway yeah she’s she’s she’s a she’s she she’s a mid 40s mother, or maybe late you know late 40s mother, having some medical issues, things that happens to anybody in that situation.
Frank
Anybody.
Chris
Give her give her some time off.
Frank
There’s a reason your doctor starts telling you at the 40 to start getting the camera up your bum. And
Chris
Yeah, just, just letting just, you know, it’s, this is considered, this is her job, and she needs a leave of absence, you know, you’ll give that to anybody else. Yeah.
Frank
Yeah. So Andy, did you do anything this week.
Andy
Words.
Nah, I did some things.
I did some things.
Frank
That’s weird. You’re usually more enthusiastic than this. Did running the show last week.
Andy
I’ve got a headache right now, so.
Frank
Did running the show last week give you some perspective.
Andy
Yeah, so.
Um, yeah, ruling the world is hard.
Boring.
Frank
Boring?
Andy
right now, so I’m just kind of blah kind of thing, but you know, they’re all good.
Chris
The allergies are going through the roof right now.
Andy
Yeah, they are
Frank
It’s the day before Easter, all kinds of stuff.
Andy
true.
Chris
Well we, we’ve been particularly blowy and the mold count around here is like way, way high.
Andy
Yeah, that’s true. But yeah, I’ve been working on my component drawers. I’ve got a bunch more of
those set up now. I’ve got probably close to 300
Chris
Yeah, we got.
Frank
That’s like twice as many as you had two weeks ago.
Frank
It’s cool.
Andy
of these little, yeah
these little tiny drawers,
but they’re turning out really nice. I’m really happy with them.
Chris
Oh, you added the LED light stripping.
Andy
I’ve always had that. That was part of the desk. I’ve got shelves above the desk,
and then I’ve got some LEDs below it. I bought some LED strips for the kitchen a few years ago,
but I was very disappointed as they’re not very bright. You can see I’ve got them running the
full length here, and they only light up the desk a little bit. But they’ve been just a box of them
sitting here. They’re one of the ones that I bought on eBay out of China, and when I complained
about the light output, they just refunded me instead of I was looking for to return them,
and they said, don’t worry about it. So I just had them lying around. I figured, oh, I’ll just use
them all on one little strip, and that gave me a little bit of light on the desk, which is kind of
nice. But yeah, as far as the door boxes goes, I’m kind of coming along here. I’ve kind of
sectioned it off into one side, the left side of my desk, being your more on-board, smaller
components like resistors, and inductors, and capacitors, and stuff like related like that.
And then on the other side, I’m going to have more like switches and plugs and jacks,
potentiometers, little things like that. So I’m kind of going to be working in two separate
little worlds here when it comes to putting this stuff together, but it’s coming along pretty good.
I’m costing a lot of plastic, though. I’ll tell you that. That’s a lot of plastic back there.
Chris
Yeah, you posted that failure.
Andy
Yeah. But I do have one set for our visualization nurse right here. When it comes to potentiometers,
I had a couple different sizes because you’ve got like on-board trimmer potentiometers,
and then you got some of these kind of in-between PCB mount standard size potentiometers,
and then you got the ones that everybody’s used to seeing when it comes to potentiometers,
kind of think of volume controls and stuff like that.
Chris
Oh, man, that is, that is a very nice pot stash man.
Andy
But I’ve got, yes, there’s a lot of pot in this corner. But you could see the use of the different size drawers
here for whatever components I’m storing and how my drawer system, I can make any size drawer
Chris
More visual listening.
Andy
for it. It kind of works out really nice. I’m quite happy with my design. I did learn something,
though, that is kind of important if I can show you guys here. I’ve got one drawer right here.
Yes, yes. So the bottom of the drawer, I’ve got, not chamfered. What’s the other one?
Chris
Chris
Yeah, you kind of rounded the corner so that you don’t get stuff stuck in the corner and things are easier to pull out with your fingers.
Yes.
Andy
Yeah. Yeah, I fill it. So I filleted the bottom of the drawer here, and for the bottom of the drawer,
I ironed it as well with the 3D printer. And so the bottom is nice and flat. But I noticed around,
right when it goes onto the fillet, I’ve got a little bit of a lip all the way around where the
ironing kind of seems to like push up against the fillet. It made a little bit of a rim.
And when I’ve been making drawers since then, I turned off the ironing, and it’s not the super
flat anymore. It’s more of a traditional printer, but it’s seamless now up the fillet.
So the lesson I learned is, if you’re going to iron a surface, don’t iron a flat surface that
then goes into a fillet, because the ironing does make a little bit of a ledge, an edge,
all the way around where it’s ironing. So now the rest of my drawers are going to be nice and
smooth. So I’ve actually taken a lot of the smaller component drawers and changed them out
for ones that I didn’t iron. And the larger component drawers, I’ve used the ones that I’ve
ironed, because I’ve got like 150, maybe 200 that I’ve ironed. And so there’s a lot up there,
and I’m not going to redo them, but I am saving the nicer ones for the smaller components.
Chris
Seamless means two different things in from 3D printing to sewing.
Andy
Yeah, quite a bit, that’s for sure. But yeah, so I’ve been working on that. And this has kind
of turned into a fun project, like sitting down and designing the labels in my old PaintShop Pro
software that I feel like I’m home in, which is kind of fun to use. And then I can…
Chris
Well, those, those literally look like you have a store shelf right there. So, so crazy.
Andy
Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I think they came out pretty good. And now you can see why I put
the handles of the drawers on just one side to give plenty of room for the labels, even the
really small labels turn out pretty good.
Chris
Oh, I thought it was for the for people with claws, claw hands.
Andy
But I have changed something I’m going to do. There’s one situation over here where you can see I’ve got one big drawer full of capacitors. And that’s
because this particular capacitor is one that I like to use and I buy in a larger bulk. So I’ve
got them in a bigger drawer. But it occurred to me the other day, like some of these components
as you’re using them, you use them up and then you might buy more and the amount you have is
going to change. And I don’t want to sit here and have to change the drawer setup all the time to
compensate for how many I’ve got in case I buy extra or something. Now I’ve got one situation
where I’ve got potentiometers. I’ve got three or four of each value of potentiometer that I’m used
to using. You can see that some of these I’ve used more than others. But generally speaking,
five or six potentiometers saves me well. But there’s that one potentiometer that I like to use
a lot. And so I’ve bought a lot of them. And I don’t want to have this huge drawer of components
just for the one that I like. So I’ve decided that I’m probably going to start making a little label
that floats on the inside of the drawer near the back of the drawer that tells me that I’ve got
additional components inside of a container. So I’m just going to take it. I’m going to bag
extra ones that don’t fit in the drawer and throw them into just one of the toolboxes I have. So
I’ve got kind of like stores when they got the back room, you know, where they might have extra
Frank
Inventory
Chris
The back room is a myth. The back room.
Kevin
Overflow, overflow storage.
Frank
Inventory
Chris
It’s used for sorting incoming stuff and then that’s it for the most part.
Frank
I don’t know. Sometimes you ask if they’ve got a thing in the back and
Chris
And that’s because it just barely showed up.
Frank
The understanding is that it’s still being processed, but if they’ve got it in the back, they’ll grab it for you.
Andy
of something. Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I don’t buy it.
You know, in the in the 70s, 80s and 90s, I grew up with my parents. My dad was the breadwinner,
but they’re kind of like the big box store. I think it was Smith, Kmart, and Shopko,
all very kind of related. And this was back when Smith was, I think, not as much grocery.
It was more of a big box store back then.
Frank
For anybody in the continental divide, that’s Kroger.
Andy
but he was just a stalker, a nice shelf stalker. And he worked for several different companies,
Chris
Yep.
Andy
But yeah, yeah. But growing up, it was also very
important for my dad to teach me and my brother a good work ethics. And so the whole bring your
kid to work day was really quite the thing. And looking back, it was kind of neat because I remember
walking with my dad, you know, I’m only five or six years old. And it was before the store would
close. And it was probably kind of probably only went to work with them maybe 10, 15 times growing
up. It wasn’t the whole lot. But I remember, you know, he’ll meeting up with his boss on the way
end. And his boss is saying, Oh, hey, okay, we need this area done and this area done and otherwise
do your thing, you know, you have a nice night. And then you look at me, and you’re going to go
work with your dad today. You know, you’re going to have fun doing that and getting all excited.
I’m going to go work with dad. I just cannot imagine having a work environment where I could
bring my kids nowadays and have that kind of reaction from the management. You know, there would
always be this all insurance and risk and stuff like that, which is legit. But back then it was,
it was looked as to be a positive thing. And I remember I’d go and I’d
Frank
People were less sue happy back then too. So
Andy
yeah, I’d go and I’d sit down in the back room there, their little lunch room until the store
closed because I couldn’t go help dad until the store was closed. And pretty much everybody was
gone. So I’d sit there for like about a half hour, 45 minutes or so. And then, you know, my dad would
come get me and I’d go and help them. You know, I got really good at facing product. That was my
job when I worked with dad. I would face the product. And now when I’m in stores, it bugs me
when it’s not faced right. I owe that to poppy here.
Chris
Well, and lots of stores are so understaffed nowadays that he, you know, it doesn’t get doesn’t really get done.
Andy
Yeah, that’s true.
Frank
The one that bugs me is I’ll be walking through and somebody will have grabbed something and in a completely different part of the store decided they didn’t want it anymore and just put it on the shelf and walk away.
Chris
At least give it to your cashier so they so that somebody being paid to do it can put it back.
Frank
Especially if it’s like ice cream or something. I mean, what the hell do anyway.
Chris
That’s messed up yo.
Andy
Uh huh.
Yeah. But anyway, where I’m going with this is when I used to go work with my dad,
there was a back room. I mean, the back room did have tons of product in there.
And it wasn’t really just for sorting. It really was that, hey, there’s too much of this product
that we got on the trucks. And so we’re going to, you know, put some of it out on the shelves and
have the rest in the back room. And that was what my dad’s job was, was to take product and refill
those smaller areas for product that we had extra of. And so, you know, he’d go through and he would
check, you know, how much product we have a certain things. I guess there was something on the label
that showed it had a little asterisk sign if we had back stock of that product. And so he would
just go through and when we were low on something that had that asterisk, he would make a note of
it and how much he needed to bring out. And that was pretty much all he did all night. So anyway,
where I’m going with this, that’s what I’m going to do with my drawer boxes. I’m going to make the
drawers the size of the component, unlike this big drawer that I was showing you guys that’s got
pretty big capacitors in there. But the drawer does not need to be this big. I only need enough for,
you know, six or eight capacitors in one drawer. And then I’ll bag the rest, make a little tab label
in the back of the drawer that says, Hey, there’s stuff, there’s more available in my box in the
back stock. And that way, if I need a lot of extra, I’ll do that. But this is the only drawer that
I’ve oversized because of how much I have. And so I’m just going to go ahead and leave this one,
because this is the only outlier of the whole system. And this particular drawer,
Frank
That’s the size of four drawers, right? It looks like four.
Andy
yep, yep, yep, this is a four division of the three by three drawer set. So and three by three
is used all the way around. So if I ever need more spaces, and you saw when I was showing you guys,
I got blank drawers here and there from the different categories. So that both that it’s
easy to expand when I need to. And, you know, sometimes it’s easier to have a drawer that’s
unused, so that you can have everything line up nice and pretty and be easy to navigate. So
Frank
Going back to the OCD
Or is it CDO CDO
Andy
I don’t know. What’s CDO?
Kevin
Compulsively obsessive.
Frank
CDO that’s OCD with all the
All the letters are in alphabetical order.
We had a roommate back in the day that did that one to me. It’s like, I don’t understand many things. Like, yeah, that tracks.
Chris
Well, it’s like, I was like, it’s like the guy that made the word lisp.
Yeah, evil. Absolutely evil. But I’m going to go ahead and do that. While I was looking through
a lot of my components, I was thinking about taking some of my stuff from when I was a kid,
because I used to just de-solder stuff instead of purchase components, you know,
and and sort sort those components into my drawer set here. And so I was kind of considering
like the quality because you know, like resistors, it’s not worth to do on resistors. Resistors are
so bloody cheap. It’s more of a much more of a pain in the butt to try to reuse one than to
just get a new one. And so there’s,
Chris
But diodes.
Andy
I don’t know, there are some heavy duty diodes, some of the
bigger ones that are more on the expensive side. So I was trying to rate it when it comes to the
expense. One of the more expensive things to purchase is actually inductors, because I got
so much copper in them. And so inductors are something I definitely want to take my old stock
in and resupply. And and that’s when I realized I don’t know how to measure the inductance of an
inductor, you know, how many how many Henry’s it is. And so I looked up like, how do you do that?
That’s, I looked at my multimeters, because I got an Owen multimeter is, my primary multimeter,
other than the loads of like Harbor Freight dorky ones I got everywhere, you know,
but my Owen doesn’t measure inductance. And I was kind of a surprise. Okay, well, how do you do
this? So I looked it up and it’s complicated to figure to measure inductance without a device
designed to do it.
Chris
Could you just do it by weight?
Andy
So I think there’s some things you can measure, but a lot of the
inductance of an inductor also has to do with the makeup of the core of the inductor, what material
it’s made out of as well. So it’s not like you can measure a bunch of different things to figure
it out, and do a bunch of math to figure it out. And I don’t want to have to do that with all of the
drawer full of inductors I got. And this is something that I usually don’t use inductors,
I’ve kind of been getting into it and understanding where their use is. And they’re actually kind
of neat the way a lot of them work. But since I haven’t ever had…
Chris
So, so when you need one, you basically need to wind it yourself to make sure that you get the induction you need.
Andy
Yeah, well, that was kind of the thing. But then also when you’re winding it yourself,
you got to be able to measure it. And yeah, so I found out that there’s a type of meter out
there called an LCR meter, which makes completely sense. L is the abbreviation for an inductor,
C is capacitance, and R is resistance. It’s a multimeter that just does
induction. And so I got to buy a new tool this week. And so I spent 25 bucks on a
multimeter that looks like a Harbor Freight multimeter that happens to do induction.
And reviews state that it’s fairly accurate. I don’t need the super, super, super accurate
stuff right now, I’m not at that level. So and 25 bucks is a lot to spend on another
multimeter. Figuring I’ve got a drawer in my shop that’s got like 15 of them sitting in there.
Chris
And paint it so it doesn’t and accidentally end up in the back here trunk or something.
Kevin
Right?
Chris
Like the harbor freight multi-meters. Yeah.
Andy
Yeah, no kidding. No kidding. I think I’ll leave it up here. It’s one of the special go-to
multimeters. And I got to admit, I do have the Owen that’s my primary multimeter. And then I’ve
got a couple of the Harbor Freight ones up here for when I need more, because a lot of the times
you do measure more than one thing at a time. And since the LCR meter is also still a fairly
normal multimeter, it’s it doesn’t do amperage and stuff like that, but it does everything else. So
it’ll be nice to have an extra one sitting on the desk that does have an additional use to the Owen.
Chris
Well, I don’t know about you, but every time I tried to use a harbor freight one for amperage, I blew the fuse.
Andy
Yeah, me too. In fact, I do that all the time with my Owen as well.
You always try because you always want to use the low mill amperage because it’s so much more
accurate. The accuracy is higher on it than the higher amperage, but they’re so easy to blow.
Chris
Then you hear pop and get no numbers and you’re like, ah, shoot.
Andy
Yeah, I’ve got a box of fuses I bought just for my own. And in fact, I love this part because
unlike the Harbor Freight ones, you can see that the Owen here is used to you blowing them. So it’s
got a little little pad, you could just pop open with the battery covers open, that just pops open,
and it pulls the fuse out with it. So it’s like, yeah, they know people are going to blow this
sucker left and right.
Chris
Nice.
Well, the only thing that would make it better is if they use like the micro fuses like you got in your car.
Andy
You know, what I would love is just having a resettable fuse in it.
They could have done that figuring how much you’re going to blow that. I haven’t really looked
too much into resettable fuses that don’t have a lot of draw on them. There are
bimetal resettable fuses, but those are kind of more of the high amperage kind of stuff. And
they’re also slow blow. And for your multimeter, you want a fast blow. So maybe there’s a reason
why they don’t use them.
Chris
Yeah, I don’t know. I, I haven’t messed with those too much.
Andy
I did while I was looking around, I did find some components I’d like to
start adding into more of my projects just to be safer. And that is THC fuses are really cheap.
Chris
I’m going to put them next to your pots.
Frank
I didn’t know that THC required a fuse
Andy
through hole component, a fuse with wires that you can stick in a circuit board.
Chris
You got to, again, like I said, you got to make sure you don’t put those.
Frank
So not the not the active chemical in cannabis.
Andy
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that wouldn’t be very effective at shutting things down.
Chris
See, that’s the funny thing is like, you got the THC’s, but they’re actually not pots, but they’re similar.
Kevin
yeah see anytime I hear THC I immediately think tetrahydrocannabidiol
Andy
Yeah. And that’s funny, because when you think of a pot in THC, I’ve got a pot right here that is THC.
Potentiometer that’s through hole. But anyway, so I found out that those fuses are really cheap. So
I’m going to start, it was like five or six dollars for like two kid of 200 of different values. So
I’m going to start adding those onto my projects and soldering them in place.
Because you know, you always measure how much your amperage you’re pulling on your project. So
you can get a pretty good idea. Well, if you pull more than double that, you probably got a problem.
So we’ll start adding fuses onto that. And whenever I use anything that’s a higher amperage,
like if I’m switching, you know, a higher amperage with a MOSFET or something like that,
I’m also going to use a bimetal thermal fuse in there as well. I found out those are cheaper.
I think I bought 25 for like eight dollars. So they’re not as cheap, but they’re kind of
neat. The ones I got are 60 degrees Celsius. So at 60 degrees Celsius, it breaks the connection.
That’s another fuse type. So I’m going to start adding those.
Frank
So is that anything like a fusible link or is it now I guess a fusible link would be more of a mechanical connection, huh?
Andy
Yeah, yeah, it’s more of that. Now, these are components by themselves. Like the fuse,
if you blow the fuse, you got to unsolder and resolder a new one back in.
And for the bimetal ones. Great example, you see this in power supplies. You ever overheat a power
supply and it stops working and you just give it some time and it starts working again.
That’s that device doing that. It’s acting. It works just like a fuse, but to temperature.
So if the fuse itself gets hot from just other components in the area, then it breaks the connection
and shuts down.
Chris
Very, very, very different from the tin foil in your kitchen that just kind of starts on fire.
Frank
A fusible links I’ve heard of are different materials than tin.
Andy
No kidding. No kidding.
Yeah, but so I’m going to start adding those to my projects so that my projects are a little
bit on the safer side because you guys know me in electricity and fires.
Frank
You’re prone to them
Andy
So yeah, yeah, they happen
a lot. So I’m going to start doing that. But so I got got the LCR meter. I’m happy for the new toy.
And then let’s see here. I’m getting I looked into it was bothering me the other day that,
you know, Chris is putting us around on his printer. He’s been working on that one for a
little while here. And I’ve been not really having a need to put forth the effort to build one.
I’ve been fine, but I’ve got nylon and stuff like that that I like to use, but I can only print
stuff that’s a couple millimeters off the bed tall, because I’m not enclosed, you know, I could
heat soak it from the bed at a higher temperature and get away with it. But anything more than a
couple of millimeters tall, and I start delayering and stuff like that.
Chris
So.
Andy
I got thrown a an ad on Amazon
for one of Ender’s tents for their 3d printers. And I was really impressed with the cost and
how big they were. And it’s not like a tent. I mean, it is a tent. They are material and stuff,
but they look pretty nice.
You know, big square box, essentially, with a window on the front.
Frank
Like a canvas
Andy
Yeah.
And so I got was kind of thinking about it. And I decided I’m going to grab one of those. So I ordered
a tent for my my 3d printer, a bigger one, because of all the modifications and stuff I did to mine.
Chris
Modification.
Andy
But yeah, we’ll see how that goes over the next, I think I get it Wednesday or something like that.
So hopefully next podcast, I’ll be able to report back on any projects or any differences I’ve noticed
by printing enclosed. But
Frank
You’re gonna have to test the
Humidity control how much you can get with it even if it’s just a little bit better than
Open air you might be able to use some of the water soluble
Filaments too
Chris
Edity control.
Andy
Yeah. Yeah, that’s true. That’s very true. I probably will wind up building a climate control
unit that I can just, you know, cut into the tent and do that whole thing.
The plan there was to have a vent that blue air outside, blue air from inside to outside to
lower the temperature and then have the, you know, 24 volt heating core to heat up the
interior and then just kind of maintain the temperature between those two states. But
Chris
So, I kind of had a thought.
Andy
what’s that?
Chris
Um, so, um, what if the drawers that you put your plastic in, you know, when you’re not using a spool already was the filament dryer.
Andy
I just use plastic bags for mine. All of my
Frank
I have seen a lot of people build cabinets
And stuff like that so a drawer would not be that far out of the realm of possibility
Chris
So, yeah, I was thinking.
So, yep. So the, the wife used to used to do soap making and things right, but our child has medical issues with dye and fragrances.
Chris
So, we, so she’s, she’s, she’s getting her, she, she’s getting rid of it. She’s, she, she’s, she’s like, I haven’t done this in a while anyway.
So she got rid of all those, all the supplies and things, but now I’ve got this nice three drawer tote plastic tote thing and I was like, you know what, my, my, my, my filament fits in there really nicely in the, in the top, top couple of drawers.
So if I, instead of the bot in the bottom drawer just installed a dryer to dry out the top two drawers, while I’m just storing my, my plastic in there anyway, because
Andy
I wonder how well that would work, essentially like turning the entire thing into a dehumidifier,
huh?
Frank
There’s
Chris
yeah, so basically, and so, like you put it on a timer so that it’s, it’s not on all the time but it runs like maybe you know, a few, a couple, a few hours a week, you know,
Frank
Or even just senses the humidity in the air and keeps it in a certain range
Chris
now you’re talking expensive.
Andy
No, I can build controllers for you. You know, I would love that kind of project.
Andy
I’d get a kick if one of you guys came to me and said, hey, I need something from me, Andy.
Frank
Yeah, that sounds right up Andy’s…
Andy
You want to design something?
Frank
So one of the better cabinets that I’ve seen is actually Adam savages that he uses in his video when he’s been building up his 3d printer stuff in part of the shop
And one of the interesting things to me is he has taken his storage which is the cabinet and he’s modified the cabinet and added other things onto it and all kinds of other stuff but
He has a Bowdoin tube that comes from each of the spools up to his printers so he doesn’t even remove them from the cabinet when he’s using them he just pulls it from the cabinet into the printer and they’re always in that humidity controlled space
Chris
Yeah, I wanted to do something like that, but like, that’s overly complicated and I, I don’t current.
Frank
And a lot of Bowdin tube
Chris
I currently don’t have the room for that.
Frank
I’m just more than anything I’m saying you can make it as complicated as you want there buddy
Chris
modification.
Andy
That would be a neat system. Does he, in his videos, does he use normal two kilogram rolls
or does he buy the bigger stuff?
Frank
A mix he’s got a bunch of to kill and one or two to K
Two K
Andy
Two kil, excuse me, what, two pound, one kilogram. Yeah, my bad.
Kevin
yeah I was gonna say I was gonna say I haven’t seen anything large
Andy
Yep.
Frank
No, you’re right one K one K
He’s got a bunch of one K spools and I think he’s got a couple of five K spools so
Chris
To kill.
To kill a printer spool.
Andy
I think doing the, the PFT tubing, the Bowdoin tubing down from the cabinet on the
bigger spool sounds like a great idea. The smaller ones almost seems like, because I mean,
you would be, you know, that’s a lot of tube.
Frank
That’s half your spool just to get to the printer
Andy
Yeah. Yeah. And it would be kind of hard with the whole running out or knowing how much you
got to go and stuff like that. And, but yeah.
Frank
I think it kind of depends on placement too if you set your shelves your spool shelves or your spool cabinet above your printer like in my case anyway that’s where my proximity sensor is anyway
So if I just drop it straight into the proximity sensor and down then I’m not
Concerned about long term storage necessarily
Chris
I’m already, I’m already thinking that.
That you, you, you mount each spool on a scale, and then you TAR it when you put a new spool on so that, you know, how much is left because there’s a digital you can just tap it and know how much is how much is left on each one, like, this is way super complicated.
Andy
Yeah. Let me ask you guys a question.
Frank
A production level printer though that would be very useful
Kevin
yeah yeah what’s your question
Andy
This might be something I’ll have to research, but when it comes to your spools,
is measuring them after you’ve opened them, after you’ve removed the plastic and then weighing
the spool, do, do people find that most spools actually do have the full kilogram of plastic
on them or does it tend to vary to the negative or the positive on how much actual plastic is on
the spool?
Chris
I
Andy
Because I’ve always done it the other way around where I will wait till I’ve got an
empty identical spool. So I know exactly how much that spool weighs. I’ll tar the empty spool and
then weigh, you know, whatever one I’m using that way I can see how much exactly is on it.
Frank
That’s only when you get lower and are trying to figure out how much you’ve got left for a print though right so
Andy
But it
Chris
TAR weight. Yeah.
Andy
would be kind of nice. Yeah. Yeah. But it would be really nice to be able to just weigh the spool
ahead of time because that’s what I do when I’ve got a brand new spool that I don’t have an empty
spool for. I’ll usually write down how much the spool, how much the supposed TAR weight of the spool is.
Yeah. And, and then go with that. But that has led me to under guessing and over guessing on those
kind of spools. I didn’t know if that was, that was a normal
Chris
I would, I would think it happens a lot like the ground, like, like ground meat. So they say, you know, this chub of ground meat is like one pound or whatever but it’s actually slot.
Frank
Plus or minus whatever variance they allow
Chris
They’re usually slightly more.
Frank
It’s safer to do more because people will weigh it and go oh do get my full amount nobody complains a little bit extra
Chris
Yeah, I’m one of those people.
Frank
Baker’s dozen style
Chris
Yep. So I found that because, yeah, because I buy the, I buy the, I buy the fine five pound chubs and freeze them. Right. And so I have a scale that we weigh them into one pound increments and freeze them.
And there’s always at least a quarter pound extra on the five pound chub.
I imagine that the plastic would would be rather similar that they have just a little bit extra, just to make sure that, you know, they don’t have people going, Hey, man.
Kevin
yeah because you remember the crap storm that was the foot long subway sandwich
that was actually only 11 and three-quarter inches I want my a quarter inch
Chris
Right.
You know, bread’s not really that precise guy.
Frank
Well and
Let’s be honest. It’s not like it costs the producer the schools it a whole lot to add I don’t know
20 30 grams to make sure that they’re overweight maybe even
Really
Andy
I would agree.
But the last couple that I’ve been through have actually been underweight by a couple of grams.
Chris
Really.
Andy
And that’s that’s burned me and that’s why I was asking because if you’re over, it’s fine.
You just got more, you know, plastic at the end that you left because usually when I’m judging a job, I’ll try to fit it up to, you know, have a good like 10 grams or so over what I’m expecting.
And when I’m weighing the empty spools, when I’m tearing the empty spools, it’s perfect just about every single time.
It’s really right on. But when I’m when I’m just taking one kilogram off the total weight of a, you know, an unbagged spool brand new spool, I’m finding that often it’s like about 20 to 30 under.
And that doesn’t seem to matter on what brand I’m buying either.
But.
Chris
I guess maybe they decided that how many people will actually notice.
Frank
I know it’s supposed like it’s salt is one kilogram of plastic, but I wonder if they’re including the spool in the weight.
Andy
I actually, because I do measure a lot of this stuff and I’ve never encountered that it’s always been, you know, around, you know, 1.2 seven or so is about average is about 270 grams per spool.
Chris
No, the, I think, I think according to standards, they have to be within plus or minus so much of actual product weight that is advertised as sold.
Andy
Only trouble is it’s half the stuff we bought it by out of like, out of country so those standards don’t really matter a whole lot.
Chris
Right.
Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s entirely up to customs to catch it, which.
Andy
I got bigger, bigger fish to fry, then all this spools missing 20 grams.
Lock it down. Yeah, but, you know, it’s a little bit of an annoyance, but
Chris
That’s how the, how all those fancy Stanley cups ended up with lead contamination.
Andy
it’s a lead plug. They’re using it to seal the container. It’s not I mean, oh, I hate that argument.
It’s leaded solder that they use. If they people got a problem with that they’ve got so many other issues that they’re unaware of, if that is going to be their topic.
Kevin
yeah the first time I ever heard of that brand was when I saw a news headline that said everyone
wants a Stanley cup and my my thought initial thought when I read that because that’s just
the headline I was like well yeah I would like that but I don’t play hockey
Chris
I don’t even, I don’t even.
I don’t even follow soccer.
Frank
Personally my thought was I don’t get basketball so
Andy
You can tell none of y’all are in the construction industry.
Frank
Me… me and Chris enjoy telling the same joke it seems
Kevin
well I mean I do enjoy hockey so that’s that’s that’s the one sport I can enjoy watching
but I have to be there
Chris
Well, yeah, I mean,
Frank
So how does it apply to the construction Andy?
Andy
I just I remember growing up seeing my uncle carry his Stanley around with him he kept soup in it, which was really awesome. And I see it
Frank
Was it actual Stanley brand or was it just a two walled thermos?
Andy
Oh, you know what I don’t know how accurate memories are on that I remember the word Stanley but that’s not 100% it could have been another brand but I mean it’s basically the same.
Chris
well, is it like Stanley, the toolmaker Stanley.
Andy
Well Stanley Stanley bread has been around forever making thermoses.
Chris
Right. So I’m just saying the, the, the cups that went all viral are those actually Stanley from the tool makers, or is that a different Stanley.
Andy
I think it’s the same one.
I think all they did was just order a bunch of cups from Stanley Stanley makes thermoses that’s what they’ve always done. And this one cup that they made for Starbucks just got popular Stanley still making thermoses for all the you know blue collar people so
Frank
1913 is when Stanley cups looks like they were established
Andy
Yeah, I see them a lot in the wintertime and you know working crews.
Chris
I just thought they always made like really cheap tools.
Andy
Yeah, I mean I know that I never really connected the, the two in my head, to be honest I always assumed it was just thermoses from that company but you’re right there is Stanley tools as well.
I don’t know.
Chris
Yeah, those are the kind I like to buy.
Frank
I’m pretty sure the Stanley tools is a completely different
Frank
I mean, it’s all based off the last name Stanley is like going to Japan and asking me about Honda
Chris
Well, I thought, I thought you bought the thermoses, you know, because they were at the same store as where you’d get the Stanley, you know, the cheap Stanley wrenches or sockets or whatever, you know, I would buy them real cheap on purpose.
So I didn’t have to cut up my expensive craftsman or blue point or snap on, you know, yeah.
Andy
True.
Frank
The logo is different it does look looks like they do have a thermos though
Chris
That’s probably why I was like, because I, because they, I know that they made actual work blue color, you know, thermoses and lunchboxes and really cheap tools.
Frank
It could be false equivalents though because I only see the one reference to the thermoses and everything else is tools when you search for Stanley tools so
Andy
You know, I’m looking at some of these pictures here of some of the hammered hammered metal versions of the thermos. And that’s that’s some of my memories, the ones that I got of the older ones like my uncle using where we’re hammered so, of course it was also really old and so it could have actually just been beat up this these things just last forever so.
Frank
See because we’re in a world now where people buy things that look beat up to buy
Rather than using it and letting it beat up get beat it organically
Kevin
right
Andy
Yeah, I don’t, I don’t get.
Chris
I’m, I’m going to take it down on my basement and beat it senseless so it looks cooler.
Frank
I’m gonna buy pants that have holes all over it rather than wearing them to make holes
Andy
Oh man, there is nothing better than having something that you bought new you used correctly, and now it looks like garbage still working great but all the damage done to it the scuff marks all that kind of stuff to the tool is all from stuff that you’ve done.
I love that about some of those tools that’s the ones that you really, you know, fix them even though it’s more expensive to fix it than to buy a new one just because that one’s been with you for so long, you know, and all the deans in it and stuff like that that was that was your history, not anybody else’s you know.
Chris
Oh, here it is. So the Stanley brand on your drink where isn’t the same as the old yellow and black Stanley tools.
Andy
Oh, so they are two different things.
Chris
Thank you google. Um, but you can use your Stanley tools to beat up your drinkware to make you look self look cooler.
Andy
Yeah, it’s kind of funny that some, we sure would have bought some stock in Stanley, knowing all that kind of stuff was going to go down because they were just kind of a, a nothing, you know, I mean they’re they’re a standard in the market, and then suddenly they kind of exploded with popularity.
Frank
All because some
All because some lady had our car set on fire for I can’t remember
And then they’re going to go away probably just as fast and just become the standard they was worth.
Andy
Yeah. Yeah, I remember that and that was done too because like, I get it and she probably would be accurate if it actually had gotten burned up but like the cup holder she pulled it out of was a plastic cup holder, no signs of melting or anything like that.
So I mean there was a fire in the car and I’m sure it got warm but it wasn’t enough to do damage around the thermals either.
Chris
Yeah, I think it was location. Yeah, location bias.
Andy
Yeah, now if it had been like half melted into the dash and stuff like that, you unscrew it and there’s still ice in there. I could see that from a thermos like that.
Frank
You have to fight to get it out of the car and pull half of the center console with it and then you open it up
Chris
But like any, any well made thermos does that. I mean, there’s, I mean, thermos brand is that for a reason I invest well into thermos brand in my household, you know, for those things specifically because thermos has been awesome.
Not, not only for regular on the go, but you know, when you’re out hiking camping, etc, etc.
Frank
Didn’t realize that yeti did a dog bowl until we got our dog and he came with a yeti dog bowl
Chris
Cool. So we’ve each got our shameless plug.
Andy
Oh, that’s cool.
Frank
I don’t know why they would do a dog bowl but they do
Andy
Yeti’s one of those great brands so that’s good.
My, my, my diaper bag was cheap and that sucker still kept kicking around here and now it’s used as a normal bag.
Chris
Well, like how they diversified so quickly.
They won’t.
Andy
It’s nice when you got good things. Talking about good things, the last thing I got is my calipers, my beloved calipers. These are Pittsburgh calipers.
I had this well before I started 3D printing and of course they immediately turned into my tool of choice when it comes to using the 3D printer.
Chris
You’ll poke your eyes out.
Andy
Yeah, the stator on my Pittsburgh is gone.
But if I show you guys, as soon as I get to about almost 200, it starts jumping or 150. Yeah, see, it starts getting all messed up at the very end.
Frank
It skipps yeah
And then when you close it it’s not accurate
Andy
They’re messed up. The stator itself that I think the
Chris
Is, is the, yeah, is, is the, um, oh my gosh, the, the, the strip is the strip coming up at all.
Andy
the stator, no, nope, it’s still good, but there’s something wrong with it. That’s for sure.
Chris
Um, you got cracks in it. Awesome.
Frank
You can replace them they’re actually one of the more expensive
Versions of the tool at Harbor Freight. That’s actually where I got
my electronic ones and I say more expensive. They’re like I want to say 30 bucks
Chris
But then again, you do have an, you do have another set so you can probably just repurpose the screws to fix the, the other set you’ve got so.
Andy
I never thought about I might have to do that because the one that you gave me Chris is a good one, but it’s beat the hell up. And the more I worked on it, the more I decided it’s not one that I want to use on a regular basis.
And so I wound up buying a new one because remember me a couple of weeks ago saying hey, you can buy these in metal again for a pretty decent price. I think I paid like $25 for this one here.
Chris
Oh, that’s got a fat screen.
Andy
But yeah, yeah, so like some of the things that I really like about this that was important is is the way the stop at the very end is designed.
I’ve noticed a lot of these don’t even have a stop and they just come right off and that’s annoying.
Frank
That’s poopy
Andy
But yeah, the buttons on on mine don’t work very well because they’re diet, what are they called membrane buttons?
And so they’ve never really worked very good. So I wanted, you know, I got to push them really hard and I got in there and cleaned them up and they worked really well for a year or two and then they get gummy again.
So I wanted micro switches for buttons as well. And this one here that I found covered all those. It’s made of, it’s all stainless steel. It’s got the stop and the buttons themselves. You can, I don’t know if you can hear them clicky, but they are, they’re very clicky buttons.
Chris
Does it got, does it got Bluetooth?
Andy
Nope. Nope, that it doesn’t. And, and also, unlike the Harbor Freight ones, I can’t connect it up to serial either. However, I’ve never used that function of my, my, my Pittsburgh one. So I’m not really going to worry about it too.
Frank
Hook it up to serial? What?
Chris
No, yeah, they’re serious. Seriously, you can get Bluetooth calipers. I, I just tried to order. I just put in a request to buy some because I’m sick of some of the guys on the getting numbers from the production floor that where people fat finger the numbers.
Andy
Yeah. So if you look at the caliper here.
Chris
It shows up red. They, they fat finger the numbers. It still shows up red on their screen and they submit it anyway. Parts good.
Andy
The Pittsburgh.
Chris
No, you got red numbers.
Now I have to measure that again. Thanks.
Oh yeah.
Andy
But if you look, if you look right here, this little socket here, it’s got a serial port in there. And I never used it, but it was nice knowing that it was always there.
I would have to make a plug for it or solder wires to it to even get it to work. But…
Frank
This is the one that I was talking about for not too expensive
There’s no serial
Andy
Okay. Yeah, that’s I bet because it looks the same as this one. I bet they use the same board.
I bet the plastic housing just doesn’t have the opening for it. I bet the plug still there on the inside though.
Frank
That would be a good way to replace something you’ve already knows works
Andy
Yeah. Yeah, no kidding. But anyway, I never thought about replacing the stator on mine. I might, since this is a dead tool to me here, I might take this and take the one that you gave me Chris and see if I can’t pull the stator off the one you gave me and see if it will fit on this one here because I would love to get the tool back.
Chris
It’s dead to me.
Andy
Well, I do got the new one too.
You’re right. You’re right. I did notice some things.
I did notice some things though the importance of like how, how, um, fine.
Chris
They’re different.
Yeah, they’re different brands. So make some quick measurements ahead of time. Oh, wait, you can’t. The tool you’re measuring is what you’re doing.
I’m just, I’m just joshing. Yeah.
Frank
Zip strips on a pair of dykes
Andy
I did notice some things though.
The importance of how fine cut the tip of your calipers are compared to the new ones. I don’t really like the new ones compared to the old ones. My old ones are better.
But that’s so far the only flaw to the new one. And it’s a little bit on the thicker side. I don’t like the bulkiness, but it’s not that much different.
Frank
I feel like the housing is bulky
Andy
Yeah. And the new one does contain a CR 2032 battery, where the old Harbor Freight one uses the, I don’t know what these sizes are.
Chris
LR 44.
Andy
Yeah, the LR 44.
Andy
And so the battery and this one here will probably last a heck of a lot longer.
Chris
Yeah, I think some of the newer calipers are switching to the 2032 anyway. That way you have lithium options available.
Andy
Yeah. Well, the LR 44 is lithium based.
No, it’s not.
Is it? It’s one, one point 44 or one point 5.
Chris
Yep. So, yeah, I know I, I, I only just barely discovered this myself again because I was looking for Bluetooth calipers to.
Andy
Really?
I could see how that would be useful having the Bluetooth. I mean, it’s a lot easier than the serial version on these ones here.
You probably would never really want to use one that’s got a wire attached to it, but Bluetooth would be kind of cool.
So, looking up Amazon, it looks like a cheap pair of Bluetooth calipers. It was about 60 bucks. And that’s a neat idea. Yeah, I mean, that’s Harbor Freight quality Bluetooth or calipers there, which is still good.
In fact, having my old Bluetooth ones.
Frank
that’s a contradiction in terms though.
Good luck…
Chris
The ones I looked up and requested were coolant proof and all that.
So they were like $250
Andy
And that makes sense. And your line of work is totally different than what we might use for 3D printing too. But one thing I did notice is, you know, when I hammer my old calipers, they don’t always go to zero.
They’re usually within a hundredth of a millimeter, maybe about 300th of a millimeter.
And so I always thought that was pretty accurate. But the new ones, when I hammer them, you know, over and over and over, they always go right back to absolute zero.
That one actually went, yeah, always right back to zero. So I was just kind of impressed with the new ones when it came to that. Not that I need that kind of precision, but it’s nice that they, they hope.
Chris
I wonder how long that’ll last.
Frank
You remember a couple of weeks ago with me saying I don’t use my electronic ones that often because they don’t go back to zero
And we talked about yeah, I don’t need that hundredth of a milimeter, but I have more confidence in it when it goes back to zero
Andy
Uh huh.
I agree. No, I’m sure if I had more decimals on this more precision, it definitely would never have, you know, going back to zero, they never will, but
Chris
No, you, you generally don’t get much more precision with calipers with calipers, you’ll get maybe another half digit.
Andy
really.
Frank
Especially not when you
Especially not when you ram the one part into the other like you’re saying
Chris
I’m just saying that even the, even the high end brands don’t don’t make them anymore. They are not physically made any more accurate than that.
Andy
Oh, really? That’s good. That’s good to know. But yeah, but that’s, that’s all I had pretty much for this week.
Chris
Wow.
Andy
Got some new toys.
Or getting new toys. I started having to work a lot of overtime. Yeah, sorry.
Kevin
now that we’re an hour and a half into it
Andy
Sorry about not having a whole lot to talk about too. I made a list and that was a bad idea because that led to a lot of talking.
Frank
You always are worried
Kevin
that’s
every week I swear Andy you’re like I got I don’t know that I have much to talk about and then you go on and on so
Chris
The content and content creator.
Andy
Oh, I’m sorry. That fear of not having a lot to talk about is real though. I experienced it definitely last week when we did the podcast without Frank. It was just, it just, I just didn’t have nothing.
Kevin
we still did fine though we we still had like what like 45 50 minutes of content
Frank
After truncating all the silence, I think it was still about 45 minutes
Andy
Nice. That makes me feel better about it.
Chris
So Frank, your turn.
Frank
So I was fortunate to be able to replace components on my machine and
And it actually kind of worked out because I’ve been working on it for two weeks and I didn’t want to do a midway update
So instead I’m 90% of the way done and still working on the last little bit, but I replaced
Chris
We did get those couple of things you posted. Yeah.
Frank
I replaced my main thing I wanted to do was replace my hot end and my extruder
And looking into it, I realized the mounting plate on the CR 10 didn’t work with the extruder that was supposed to be the upgrade for it
But the enter three plate does so I bought an enter three plate and
Started installing it and very first thing I zeroed it and it crashed into the the left end
Because the plate is not big enough to hit the proximity switch for my CR 10
So that was the first thing I designed to go on it besides the extruder and the
The hot end was a proximity actuator
But I built it up at this point to
Number one, even with my fans loose like the box fan was just kind of sitting on the heatsink for my new hot end
The quality of my prints has I think probably about tripled
Andy
That’s so great.
Frank
Just like having nothing really set up
And this isn’t even like the top of the line version of this
This hot end it’s CR or creality
Still, but they call it a spider and I bought a spare while I was at it
This is the first version of the spider extruder and
They’re up to version three now and
My version two or my version one. Sorry is still just like amazing compared to what was stock with my
With my CR 10
And along with that came I got a an upgrade from my extruder where I’ve now got the double gear extrusion instead of the single
Chris
Yeah.
Frank
And the rest of the last two weeks has been designing carriage housing for my fans
Chris
Two gears at the same time, man.
Frank
Yeah with a sprocket
I’ve got the box right here. I don’t remember the name
Andy
Nice.
Is that a Titan feeder that you got on yours?
And you know what, I don’t think it is. I, well, I don’t know.
Frank
No, this one in I think this is the sprite extruder. Maybe I
Gave you the wrong name for the hot end
Andy
No, it’s, it’s, it’s a spider or at least the one you showed me looks like a spider.
Frank
No, yes, yes the spider
Andy
But the, the feeder on it looks like a Titan extruder. However, I don’t have it.
My printer originally came with a off-brand version of a Titan extruder, but it was only a single-sided one. It wasn’t dual.
Frank
I
Andy
And it worked really good because it was geared down and gave me a lot of torque. And I really liked that about it. But I wound up moving on to a bunch of different things that were more direct, trying to go direct drive until I’ve moved over to the BH2 series of feeders.
But if they continue to make that version, so is yours geared down, then your feeder?
Frank
I haven’t really gotten into it that much I did have to it’s a good idea to recalibrate your feed anyway and
It was feeding at about twice of what my old one was so I had to back it off actually quite a bit
Chris
Feed me Frank.
Andy
Okay. It might not be geared down. I mean, there’s, there’s positive and negatives to both. Like my H2 is really geared down, but that, I cannot move it fast at all.
I’ve got a lot of torque and not a lot of weight because I can use a smaller stepper motor on it. But yeah, my retractions have to be on the little bit of the slower side.
I can’t just zip it in, zip it back out. So I’ve got to do either really small retractions to make up for the time or something because it’s so geared down.
But that Titan extruder, the way it was geared the one I had, and that’s what looks like when I, when I typed in your Spider extruder, I’m looking at a picture of it.
And it looks like the Titan on the back of it. And that looks like the pictures you sent of your setup.
But if that’s what it is, and that’s a…
Frank
So
So the one I’ve got is right extruder and the spider is the hot end
Andy
sprite extruder.
Frank
Kind of kind of similar but not. Yeah. So anyway, just like the initial setup without any housing for any of my fans on it or anything like that
I was seriously impressed by the increase in quality. So I did a couple of other things
Okay, the sprite feeder. Okay, that is something totally different. Never mind. That looks cool.
I showed you these little brackets
Chris
Bracket.
Frank
There’s just little angle brackets that I designed because my desk
Chris
Angel brackets.
Frank
With all of the wonderful things that I have enjoyed about it the
Cross beam that I put in was not mounted very well to the desk. So I created these brackets to compensate
And I had a before and after my update and the new brackets are like seriously a factor of three better quality
And then I I printed off like a benchy and some stuff and I’ve been like way impressed by this upgrade
The fan housing I decided I’m going to do a modular design. So the actuator for the proximity switch is the same component as the housing for the box fan
And rather than even screwing in this box fan I just made it so it’s a tight fit so that I push the fan into the housing
And right now I think I’m good with that base but then I can add components to it or my cage fan to blow on the filament
Or right now I’m just doing ducting to control because the fan is twice as wide as my hot end is deep
And I figure might as well make use for all of that airflow and direct some of it towards the extruder, towards the heat sink there
Chris
Some of it.
Frank
And so and because it’s doing such high quality I may not get to building the cage fan stuff for a while if ever
Andy
Huh. Okay.
Frank
I don’t know. Anyway so that I printed off in the process of testing my and calibrating my new extruder
I accidentally unspooled a little bit and cross fed… my filament on my school
And I checked it like I went back several times around to make sure that it wasn’t crossed. It was and it broke my spindle again
And this time I was happy that I had thought ahead and had a spare
When I printed off a new spare to replace the one that I had to install the nut that goes on it is a little tight
Like the tolerance for it isn’t because it’s a new hot end a new setup
The tolerance is much tighter than I would have hoped for
So I thought well I wanted to print off a larger lathe chuck kind of for this sort of thing anyway rather than I guess I could use my crescent hammer
So I printed off a lathe chuck so I could put the nut in there and control that
And actually I might still use my crescent hammer
Anyway and the…
Chris
Hammer? I don’t even know her.
Frank
Yeah like that
The jaws have too much interference so I have to like it didn’t scale well going bigger which is weird
So I’m trying to I’m kind of fighting that right now but once I get all that squared away I’ll get my spindle my spare spindle put away and then I’ll go back to working on other projects like the housing
Andy
So I got a question about the feeder itself, the sprite.
It looks like it is the cold end of the extruder built into it.
Does the, the one you got like all the pictures I see of the sprite, most of them have a, the, the, what’s it called the heat sink and stuff built right into the feeder itself.
Frank
No
Andy
Yours isn’t like that. I must be looking at something different then.
Frank
Not the extruder are you talking about the spider the
The hot end
Andy
No, no, no, not at all. So your hot end, the red part is the cold end, the cold side of your hot end and then the heat block below it.
Frank
Yes
Andy
But the feeder itself looks like it also has a heat sink cold end built into it. If I’m now I’m looking at sprite, the sprite extruders, but they’ve got the heat block attached directly to the feeder itself and are using the cold, the cold side, the cold end of the feeder.
So I just have to look at pictures of yours again when it’s done. That’s confusing. As it looks like either you’re running two cold sides, which might have benefits. I don’t know.
Frank
The image I sent you has got the adjustment plate
Andy
Okay, yeah. Oh, okay, okay. You know how I said like, like there’s a there. Okay, a couple of these do not have the heat sink. And that’s the one that you sent the picture of. Okay, that makes total sense.
So that little little chunk that’s missing under the that you would the mount hooks to on some of those. It’s got a big heat seek attached to it. And that’s the cold side. That might be the pro upgrade version of it all these say pro upgrade on those ones.
So, okay. So you use the spiders cold end. That’ll be cool. That’s a cool looking feeder.
Frank
And just a little box fan the OEM box fan from the CR-10 seems more than enough to keep it reasonably temperatured too
So
Andy
Okay, that’s got a big seven Neema 17 on it too. So that will give you a lot of torque.
Be a torquey little guy.
Chris
Torque you.
Andy
Torque off.
Kevin
what a torque
Andy
Oh, yeah.
That’s cool.
Frank
Who is toy?
Andy
I’m excited seeing pictures of your print quality and how much better things are coming out. That’s awesome. And I also really love the idea that someone else in our group to has gone through and is starting to Frankenstein their or yeah, their printer so
Frank
I didn’t have any problems like the only thing that I’ve really designed myself honestly
Chris
Modification.
Andy
I ask you this, since you now are working on a system that you’ve redesigned yourself, when you print with it, is there more pride in the print than before because you built that set up.
Frank
I didn’t have any problems like the only thing that I’ve really designed myself honestly
Is the housing
Andy
You still put it all together. You still…
Frank
Like that
Yeah, but the extruder and the hot end are still Creality brand their recommended upgrades all that somebody else put all the thought into that I’m just
Andy
you might be, you might be right too, but you had to like use a, you had to use a carriage from like a totally different printer to get all this to even work, you know.
Frank
And then I have to modify stuff to make that work so there’s that
Um, I don’t know maybe I’m just weird. I don’t I don’t get pride from that aspect
Uh-oh
Chris found a rock keycap
Chris
Rocky.
Frank
Oh, that’s the escape key for your keyboard
Chris
No, it’s a rocky Adrian.
Andy
Escape from The Rock
Chris
It’s a rocky.
Andy
Oh, biggie. I’m just curious.
Frank
The Rock doesn’t run from anybody.
Why do you sound like Mr. T?
That’s not even Mr. T. Who is that?
That’s uh…
Chris
That sounds like Mr. Tiatimae
Andy
Mike Tyson isn’t it.
Frank
He’s more hand-pitched, and he’s got that little bit of a…
Andy
A little bit of a lisp.
Frank
A speech impediment, but nobody wants to make fun of him to his face because he will put his fist in it.
And then he’ll bite off your ear.
Except…
Chris
It definitely sounds like Mr. Tiatimae.
Frank
Except for he’s more into the scent now. He might be very, very aware of himself these days.
That’s bad. I may have to cut that out.
I don’t want him to think that I’m mocking him. I actually appreciate some of his philosophy.
Andy
Yeah, got a lot of respect for the guy.
Frank
He’s a good guy.
And it’s hard to blame him.
You know, when you grow up on the streets and someone has you pinned down, you get out in whatever way you can.
If that means biting someone’s ear off, you do it.
He just forgot that he was in the ring as all. You know?
Hard to blame him.
Anyway, um…
I think that’s it.
Chris
We didn’t stop ourselves this week.
Kevin
I tried
Frank
Am I the problem?
Kevin
no
Andy
Yeah, you could always split it up into a part one part two episode and get a spare on the docket.
Frank
Nah. That just means that I have two more weeks to procrastinate the production.
One extra week to procrastinate production.
Andy
There you go.
Frank
That can be dangerous.
That’s a slippery slope.
Andy
Did we talk about Kevin Kevin do anything this week or did I miss that.
Kevin
I went first
Andy
Oh, that’s right. I missed that.
Chris
Stitching.
He had the stitching issues. Yeah.
Andy
Oh, that’s right. Okay. That’s because it didn’t talk about 3D printing me that’s why I didn’t remember.
Frank
It wasn’t important.
Andy
I’m just waiting for my turn, you know me.
Frank
Yeah, we do.
Chris
Me me me. Me me me me me.
Frank
We all do it in our own way.
That said, I think we should shut this down and call it a week.
Kevin
probably
Chris
We can call it something.
Frank
Especially being Easter weekend.
Chris
Sir. We’re not cannon balls.
Kevin
yeah I get to be the speaker at sacrament meeting tomorrow so yeah
Frank
My life is planned to hers.
Kevin
it I mean except for I was told to limit my commentary to three minutes I’m like
I’m like uh guys this is
you know I consider Easter to be the most important holiday we celebrate in the christian world so
I could easily go on and on and on for the entire meeting and you’re telling me to keep it to three minutes
Andy
No kidding.
Frank
Well, that’s why you’re the anchor speaker, too, after everyone else.
So you can just fill the rest of the meeting.
Kevin
well so that I was told the bishop told me that
he wants me to speak first and then the rest of the time is going to be filled up with songs and so he
wants me to keep it to three minutes so that we can have enough time for all the songs he wants to sing
and I’m like okay well I will try but I’m probably going to go for like five to seven minutes and
he’s going to have to adjust the songs accordingly.
Andy
Nice.
That works.
Chris
It’s like, ah I consolidated and made it more concise.
The sentences you said one right after the other were completely unrelated.
Frank
That’s what you get.
Anyway, back to the effort to shut this down.
Kevin
right sorry
Chris
Keep trying.
Frank
We’d like to thank everyone for listening to the very end.
Chris
Whoa, the very, very end.
Frank
That’s the spike.
Kevin
two hours later
Frank
If you like what you hear, please give us all the stars and subscribe.
We are available through a wide variety of podcast vendors and so we’re easy to share.
If you have feedback, you can find us in our Facebook group, Amateur3DPod.
You can email us at Franklin, Kevin, Andy, or Chris @amateur3dpod.com or to all of us at panelists@amateur3dpod.com.
Kevin Buckner wrote the music for this episode.
OpenAI’s whisper completed the heavy lifting for the transcripts, which are linked in the description.
Our panelists are me, Franklin Christensen, and my friend, Kevin Buckner, Chris Weber, and Andy Cottam.
Until next time, we’re going offline.
Kevin
keep your FEP tight.
Andy
Always use hairspray.
Chris
I, um, tried to make some bread with the rye’d stuff.
While baking I could tell something was awry
Kevin
you didn’t get my text message dude I told you you should make a joke about Andy taking his printer camping because of the tent he bought
Chris
Oh! Yeah, I uh, I had my phone on silent during this… because, you know… noise.
Frank
I think Kevin took this one.
Chris, you need another sign off.
Chris
Oh, come on.
Let me see I think I used that one…
I used…