Frank
Do-do-ba-do-boo
Kevin
Okay, let’s not get that stuck in our listeners’ heads.
Frank
Why not we get all kinds of other stuff stuck in their heads why not that?
Kevin
We don’t want to chase people away.
Frank
That’s fair
Chris
So, I don’t know if you guys, well, I don’t know if you guys have heard the Cake version, oh man, that is good. Yeah.
Andy
I love the Cake version, yeah.
Frank
That’s actually the version that I hear in my head whenever I sing it so
Kevin
I don’t know what that means.
Chris
So, there’s the band Cake.
Andy
You are dead to me, sir.
Chris
Yeah, they’ve got a version of Mahna, Mahna.
So, if you haven’t heard it, look it up. It’s great.
Kevin
Oh, actually, I think I might have heard it.
It’s been a while.
I don’t listen to much alternative.
Chris
Le gasp!
Kevin
Oh, big shocker, big shocker, the metalhead doesn’t listen to much alternative.
Chris
Alternative metal.
Frank
That that is actually a categorization of metal
Kevin
Yeah.
Frank
It’s it’s not as amusing as uh
What is it Nerd Core
But it’s up there almost almost as awesome as a cappella metal
Chris
Well, I’ve got a They Might Be Giants station and all sorts of fun stuff show up where it all
Shows up on it and also some music from Portal. Stuff like that. It’s great. It’s great.
Frank
Well, we’ve already started but uh…
Frank
We’d like to thank you for joining us
This is episode 80 of amateur 3d podcast a podcast by amateur printers for amateur printers where we share our thoughts and experience our
Panelist this week or me Franklin Christensen and my friends Andy Cottam, Kevin Buckner, and Chris Weber and…
Chris
The very, very beginning.
Frank
Yes
We only talked for an hour before starting the recording
Kevin
It’s less than that, actually.
Chris
Well, some of us were having tech issues and login issues and yeah.
Frank
Kevin joined us late, so he didn’t get the full hour.
Kevin
Oh, that is true, yeah.
Frank
I don’t think that he’d miss is that though
Kevin
It was fine.
I was at work.
But hey, today I took my motorcycle out for the first ride of the season, so that was great.
Chris
Nice.
Andy
Oh. That had to be nice.
Chris
We’ve got to get you a new seat though.
Kevin
No, we don’t.
I got a new seat years ago, Chris.
Frank
I need to get a whole new motorcycle
Chris
Oh, man. It’s probably us.
Andy
Mine’s been parked up against the fence pretty much since the day I got it.
Kevin
And it’s the new seat I got is, it’s better than the old one.
Frank
Does anybody want to emcee today
Andy
No.
Kevin
You would already started, but I guess I can say so.
Frank
Yeah, you just be the master ceremonies for the rest of the podcast and I’ll say the outro at the end and go from there
Kevin
Right.
All right, sounds good.
Frank, what have you done this week?
Frank
I created my own version of the
Textile tape measures
The casing for it
Chris
Oh, yeah. It’s got snap rings and
Kevin
Okay.
Frank
Yeah, the snap ring was actually an idea that I got from the
Chuck the lathe chuck because it uses a an outside snap ring and the
So I just it was a really easy design has a retaining washer for the side with a snap ring and just pieces together and just pieces together.
Decided this last week that because I have been getting so much better prints that I went from a default
Narrowest point of two mill or three millimeters to two millimeters and we’re gonna see if it retains its strength
Recognizing that part of the reason I was at three is because of my table
Fixtures, so
If I’m not gonna be you know putting my weight on it and stuff like that
I don’t need to put that extra millimeter into the the width and
So the second one I actually decided that in the middle of the design process for this
So when I printed one off for my wife
I printed it all with the one millimeter less and it shaved off
I want to say about 30 minutes of print time, but also saved me a little bit like most of it was infill anyway
At 20% so it didn’t save me a whole lot of material, but it did save some time, so I
Was happy with that. Otherwise. I haven’t done anything this week
Andy
Now, just to clarify, because I made this mistake too, so it’s not not confusing. When you say three millimeters, you’re not talking about like the individual shell size or anything like that. You’re talking about the wall of a component, not being less than like three millimeters.
So that would be two sets of shells, one on one side, one on the other side, and all that, but yeah.
Frank
Plus the infill
So, structurally, I felt like three millimeters was the right minimum width for any design
But just thinking about it this week most of that was because
Like I said, it’s for my desk and I’m putting my weight on it and moving it around and it’s holding
Some stuff that I want to be careful with but if I’m designing something for a tape measure, I don’t need
Structural strength as much so I went narrower. I still I may go down to like one one and a half, but for now, I think the two millimeters is
Kind of a good middle ground, so
Andy
Yeah. I think most of the stuff I do is straight up two millimeters. I mean, unless there’s a reason to go one way or the other. I think that’s a great, great place.
Frank
Right
Andy
That’s where I landed too.
Frank
And there was actually almost no infill with three…
Three walls for the shell so and it alternates
So it’s two and three depending on which layer
Andy
Okay.
Nice.
Frank
So, yeah, there was almost no infill with this design and I’m okay with that too. So.
Chris
You know, I’ve been doing the two layers for like forever, but I came to a good point
Where I was having issues with my my prints over the last few months, and I moved it to three three layers and brought the structural structural integrity back of my prints, but my prints still look like garbage.
Andy
Gotcha. Hopefully the new nozzle and everything once you get that back together will fix a lot of those problems. It’s, it’s amazing. It’s amazing how good Frank’s Prince are looking after he rebuilt his whole carriage.
Frank
And some of that I think was my extruder as well though, so
Andy
Really.
Frank
I’ve changed the nozzle periodically I’d say I’ve backed off on the tempo since I got it but
I’ve probably still changed my nozzle every three months or so I
Also, I also have chrome plated at least chrome plated it
I they may actually be iron or steel
Nozzles that came with my
Extruder, so I don’t know if that’s gonna change their life
Chris
I would think so.
Frank
At the very I don’t think it’ll change how easily they clog but that’s a whole another thing to attack later too
But yeah, that’s everything I’ve done this week
Kevin
Alright.
Chris!
Chris
So yeah, you were talking about changing the head and all that. Well, yeah, I actually got to.
Yeah, I actually got to completely changing over the heat block assembly on my printer,
Which also included part of the spring-loaded feed mechanism.
I got an aluminum one instead of the plastic one that came with my printer.
Frank
You upgraded your extruder as well?
Chris
And, no, it’s the exact same extruder, exact same setup, except that, again, the feeder spring is aluminum assembly instead of plastic on that.
So the gear that actually holds the plastic is still plastic, and the roller on the other side is still metal, but the little levering mechanism is aluminum, not plastic.
Frank
Okay
Chris
Yeah, but there was also a, I was struggling with a little bit of a design change.
I didn’t really realize it was happening until I got it all together.
And, visibly, I could see that my extruder…
So the whole heat block and nozzle assembly was sits about somewhere between three to five millimeters lower than my previous one did.
Andy
That’s quite a bit.
Chris
Yeah, and so I got looking at it before I got everything put back together, you know, because it just didn’t speak the same,
And there’s a little notch in the assembly for how deep it sits and when it’s in place.
And those are different from the new nozzle versus the OE nozzle that came with, you know, the OE set that came with mine.
Andy
Mm hmm.
Chris
And so it looks like it’s actually giving about that three to five millimeters extra space before the plastic goes through the heat block assembly from the feeder.
Frank
I know mine
Mine uh… came with a length of Bowden tube to go from the extruder to the nozzle
Chris
Yep.
Frank
Is yours designed for that Bowden tube as well?
Chris
Yes,
Frank
Okay
Chris
So I’ve got a length of Bowden tube that’s probably right around 20 millimeters that actually sits in the carriage assembly underneath the feeder.
Frank
Mm-hmm
Andy
Okay.
Frank
And it doesn’t go in it doesn’t go into your extruder then no it would have to I’m crazy leave me alone
Chris
No, well, yeah, so,
Chris
So yeah, so the Bowden tube on mine sits right between the feeder gear and the heat block.
Andy
Okay.
Frank
Right still cool
Chris
So, and, and, yeah, and so yeah, so I replaced all that retram the bed, and it prints super sweet that I don’t need any sort of bed adhesion. In fact, I need some bed.
I had to break out the mallet to knock stuff off the print bed this week.
Kevin
Wow.
Andy
No kidding.
Chris
So, yeah.
Yeah, even after letting the print bed cool.
Like, got to tap the bottom of that with the mallet just just right to pop it loose.
Andy
That’s impressive.
Frank
Wonder if there’s like some residual
Adhesion happening from spray paint or something of you you cleaned it. I’m assuming so
Chris
Yeah, so it’s.
Frank
It’s unlikely that’s the case
Chris
Yeah, it’s just it’s it’s tram just perfect and the whole nine yards.
Andy
Nice.
Chris
So, um, I so I have been printing this week I printed.
Well, the first thing I printed was a replacement.
Again, measuring tape spool for the wife because hers.
The one I printed before the quality was the quality of the print was low enough that the print didn’t last until, you know, didn’t last six months.
Frank
Want my design or have you already printed it?
Chris
But no, she I already printed it and she really likes that setup.
Frank
Actually do think that I’ll put mine up on thingy versus my first good build
So…
Andy
That would be nice.
Chris
Nice.
So that was the first thing I printed right off of it. The second thing I printed was another micrometer stand.
So, um, there’s a lady I work with that has a has a desk adjacent to me and she she ends up measuring pins and rings and stuff like that, a lot.
And so, um, obviously to help save her wrists and and things because I don’t know why we haven’t bought her a micrometer stand of her own.
But she keeps swapping swapping back and forth with.
Um, I don’t know if you guys have ever seen the micrometer stands that have the little grip handle have that the grip adjustment handles and stuff like that.
Frank
I really don’t spend a lot of time looking at micrometers stands myself
Chris
You know, but anyway, you can spend.
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So anyway, just printing up this micrometer stand for her to just set the micrometer in and yeah, she was she was pretty pleased to get that.
Andy
Nice!
Chris
Um, and then I started printing the headphone mounts for the mount setup that I wanted to do. And of course, we get to this point and the wife says, Well, no, I’m thinking I want to change my mind
About how that’s done. So maybe just hold off on that for a minute. And I’m like, Okay, sure.
Frank
Yeah, sure why not
Chris
Yeah, I’ll I can still take these and turn it into turn it into a headphone tree or something that stands independently so that, you know, we can put it wherever.
But anyway, so I did that. And then so I’ve also been working on my car engine.
So we know that, you know, my timing belt flipped because I bought a lemon.
This this this this this car seems like it was fixed by somebody like my, my father,
Andy
Okay.
Chris
My father has a tendency to put our TV gasket sealer on everything cream molded gaskets.
I mean, so I found our TV in the drain oil drain plug threads.
Andy
Oh, geez.
Chris
I found RTV on when I was taking the engine apart to switch over the intake and all intake manifolds and that there was RTV on the intake manifold gaskets. There was
Chris
There was our RTV on the pre molded valve cover gaskets. There was there was RTV on the timing cover seal.
There was there was not a place this guy did not try to put RTV to keep this thing together.
So I am not surprised that the bolts were improperly credit and they were the wrong bolts and stuff that broke the timing belt on this.
Andy
Okay.
Chris
So I was not particularly surprised after after the fact.
Frank
That’s tough that is tough dude
Chris
So anyway, I did get a good engine from the junkyard and I got everything other than the manifold wiring
And I got new I got new gaskets on everything and got it in the car.
This this last week and got all the accessories put on and finished up yesterday and it runs great.
But I don’t know if you guys have ever had to deal with the shift shift lock.
Andy
Not really no.
Frank
Shift lock…
Chris
So, so your car will not let you shift out of gear out of park unless you put your foot on the brake pedal.
Frank
Yes, typically
Chris
Okay, typically, so that part on my car is broken.
Andy
Okay.
Chris
Yeah, you put your foot on the brake, you start the car, put your foot on the brake and it won’t move out of park.
Andy
Okay.
Chris
It is locked.
So there’s a shift solenoid that recognizes when you push the brake pedal.
Frank
If it’s gonna fail I would rather failed it it failed in that direction anyway
Chris
Yep, so needless to say, I was pulling my hair out because YouTube, not YouTube, just Google in general, has been generally unhelpful, because the only answer I can get is, well, here’s how you check your shift solenoid minus the solenoid itself on mine is fine.
Andy
Okay.
Chris
And then here’s how you bypass it. And that’s it.
Frank
Oh, so you were talking about the
The weight sensor in the passenger seat being a problem too and that was the same situation
Chris
Yes, that’s, that’s, yes, again, yeah, so that’s, that’s a different issue, but
Frank
With the same solution Oh just disabled it
Chris
Right. And also, by the way, disabling it still doesn’t work.
In this case,
Andy
Oh really?
Chris
So my car is not letting me disable it, and it’s broken.
So I can’t go anywhere without it going. Beep Beep Beep.
Andy
That’s weird.
Frank
Thats a problem.
Chris
Yes, I think it still might have something to do with that range switch being broke.
Anyway, so I bypass the shifter, so that I can take it for a test drive.
Drives great. Beautiful. It’s super annoying having to push the screwdriver
and move the shifter anytime I need to switch from drive backwards to reverse and park and and forward again.
Frank
But you got to work around use the screwdriver
Andy
Yeah, but that’s good for temporary.
Chris
So, yeah, it’s, it’s good for letting me use my use my car again, but definitely not a fix a proper.
So, I’m going to be playing with that today, but long story short, it came down to,
oh, hey, there’s a little cap that’s supposed to go over this bypass, right, and mine was gone, like…
Frank
Did you 3d print your way out of this
Chris
I did.
I don’t have a picture of it actually installed in my car because currently there is still a screwdriver there.
But I did. So I did send you guys a pic of it of it printed right up on my machine.
Frank
Well, that’s what that was
Kevin
Yeah.
Chris
Yep. I even had the right color plastic.
Frank
Nice!
Kevin
Nice.
Bonus!
Andy
I’m Curious.
The part that you’re talking about, Is that where the cover you pop out of the bumper for your tow loop?
Chris
No, this is on the shifter.
Frank
It looks it looks like the plug that goes in the the thing for your tow and all that too
Andy
The tow loop.
okay.
Chris
Yeah, but no, this thing is actually really tiny. It’s, it’s like, not even 10 millimeters around at the top. So it’s
But it’s just this little tiny little plastic plug that allows you, you know, you pop it out and it allows you to stick a screwdriver into bypass the shifter solenoid.
Andy
Okay.
Chris
So, yeah, tiny little thing, right, it’s right next to your shifter, but yeah, anyway, so I noticed I was like, huh, okay, well, I’m going to want to put the cover back on this when I’m done.
And I know that when we were told when when we had told it back to my place.
I don’t know if this happened while we were towing it or afterward but I when I needed to move it back and forth on the driveway. I had to push.
I did have to bypass it in order to move it up and down the driveway, even though it had power.
Andy
Oh, weird.
Chris
So I, I don’t know if this if it if it if it whatever this cause was, it happened before I started messing with replacing the engine.
So, at least this the shifter thing is and so long story short, I took my test drives, and I did get a code about the range sensor on my transmission.
Chris
So, I’m going there next going to do that today.
Andy
Okay.
Frank
Fun fun
Chris
But yeah, so fixed my printer and had a busy week with it.
Andy
Yeah, definitely.
It’s kind of neat thinking that you just yank the engine out of your car and put a junkyard engine right back into it and got it all done together and it’s ready to go and running. That’s cool.
Kevin
That’s awesome
Andy
That is so far beyond my skill level and very jealous.
Chris
Well, to be fair, it’s a Subaru. So Subaru engines are actually fairly easy to pull out versus other types of cars.
So,
Andy
Okay.
Chris
but yeah, I was able to, you know, crank over, you know,
at a quick glance you can see which cars of the junkyard had broken timing belts that you didn’t want to didn’t want to mess with.
And then you can see which cars likely had a good engine in it
and then you can go in and compression for the compression test it by crank cranking it by hand a bit and see which ones feel good.
Andy
Okay.
Chris
So, I did that.
Andy
Well, nice.
That’s cool.
Skill set that I’m in DSO that’s for sure.
Chris
I was able to use a welded nut to the top of some stuff some broken bolts on this engine to and successfully pull them off.
Andy
Nice.
That works.
Chris
But yeah, I’ve only been successful using that technique like, I think maybe once before.
Or yeah, you you stick a nut on the end of a broken bolt, weld it and turn it into a into a new bolt, essentially, and then back and then back it then back it out.
Andy
Nice. I think I’ve only tried that once or twice and I’ve had success every time,
but I do remember once where I started torquing on it and my weld broke loose because my weld sucked and had to do it again,
but I think that was really the only failure.
Chris
Yep.
Andy
Still, it’s a nice trick.
Very nice trick.
Chris
So, yeah, I was pretty pleased that that worked out and, you know, a whole whole kit and cabootle
my, my car is, at least as far as the engine job went, it went pretty smoothly, you know, except excepting that and, um, yeah.
Andy
Nice.
Kevin
Very nice.
Frank
Good deal
Chris
Nice to be driving my own car again.
Andy
I bet.
I bet.
Kevin
Yeah.
yeah.
Chris
Yeah, that was my week.
Kevin
Alright.
Andy.
Care to regale us with the adventures of your week?
Andy
Sure.
So, you guys, you guys know that you are supposed to use hairspray on your bed when you print right like all the time.
right?
Kevin
Oh. Uh. Yeah.
According to you. Yes.
Frank
I I have failed you Andy
Chris
Well, my, my, if I don’t know with my with the way I’ve just got my, my bed set, if I’m, if I use hairspray, I’m not, I’m not sure anything will get my print off that print bed.
Andy
No kidding.
I guess I should specify those of us with with plate glass beds using hairspray and not textured beds.
But the hairspray that I have always sworn by is RAV4,
RAV4X mega hold or something like that. It was the cheapest hairspray you could buy at Walmart.
And it’s got the vinyl chloride stuff in it.
I think it’s vinyl chloride vinyl something. And it worked really, really, really good way better than Aquanet that everybody kind of preaches.
Chris
Thanks to our RAV4X sponsors.
Andy
And yeah, they don’t know. No, they’re garbage.
So, I ran into a problem a couple weeks ago where they did a brand, not a brand change, but they refreshed the look of their product.
And the can looks totally different, but it’s fine. And when I bought it, I got substituted at Walmart for their RAV5X hairspray.
Chris
Oh no.
Andy
And this kind of threw me off a little bit because it doesn’t work as good.
The 5X stuff is really weird. The way it sprays out of the can is more like a Super Soaker kind of kids spray toy than it is, you know, misty.
And the actual hairspray itself
Frank
You don’t like that in your hairspray
Andy
not really, no.
Chris
I think it’s so that it’s less likely to give people lung cancer.
Andy
Yeah, something like that. Anyway, and it really doesn’t, it wasn’t working at all.
And I don’t think it’s got any of the vinyl stuff in it, but I didn’t realize any of this when I was trying it.
Excuse me. So, you know, I wound up fighting that for a little bit. And then coming back to purchase some of the correct stuff.
Chris
Whoa.
Andy
And when I started using it, it didn’t seem to be working very good.
And I had a lot of variables changing with my prints.
At the time I started to print a cheaper PLA off of Amazon that I can get for like $12 a spool, something like that.
I think it’s overture. No, no, no, this was elegoo stuff.
Chris
Really?
Andy
It was like $12 a spool for a kilogram. And it’s, I would call from, I don’t know for certain from my past experiences,
and with the changes I was dealing with my hairspray that this stuff wasn’t as good.
I was thinking that the PLA might have been just cheaper PLA. And I wasn’t really having adhesion problems,
but I was having a little bit of warping problems, which is new because I usually don’t use any kind of adhesion aid other than hairspray.
So there’s no brims or anything like that to help with warping.
And here I would start in to get a little bit of warping.
And so I was kind of fighting through that. And I’ve got my, my 4X rav hairspray, and it seems to, it’s like not working well,
it’s pilling up from the bed.
And when it, when the piece would warp, it would pull the layer of hairspray with it and the layer of hairspray was just coming off of the bed.
It was really, really kind of strange.
And so after some experimentation, I wound up cleaning the whole bed off, and I couldn’t get this crap off the bed of my printer.
It like, I used to just put a little bit of water on it, wipe it off,
just wipe the water back off kind of smeared around a little bit and wipe the water off, add a little bit of more water.
Chris
Well, now it’s.
Frank
And it would dissolve because it’s just the hairspray
Andy
Yeah.
Yeah, it was like four times doing that. And it was either have a clean bed, and this stuff, it’s not touching it at all. And so I
Chris
Oh, so now you’re working into glass cleaner, right?
Andy
Yeah, no, I wound up using some 405 cleaner, just all purpose cleaner that I had down here,
and it did strip it off with some scrubbing, but it was, it was terrible and I’m so I’m confused also try to get heated and cool on the bed too.
So it’s weird that it’s peeling up when a print is starting to warp.
It’s just peeling the hairspray up off the bed like a film of plastic. And yet I can’t scrub this stuff off with water.
It’s really, really weird. So I got the whole bed cleaned, and I tried again with the forex I also went online and checked and,
and they they’re preaching same great formula different look, you know,
no, it is not the same formula there is something sketchy with the new hairspray
Four bottles of their darn hairspray,
mainly because I was trying to put purchase the old bottle from online so that I could really have something
is this really the problem or do I got something else going on.
I just barely changed to what I think it is cheaper PLA so I don’t know if that’s the problem.
Got a lot of weird stuff going on here.
And then it finally hit me, I’ve still got a can of Aquanet that I put up in my daughters hair care products is normal hairspray,
Because you know I didn’t really like it for 3d printing.
But that’s because I had to scrub it like twice as much to get it off.
That was my biggest complaint about it. And that’s like, not a big deal compared to the problems I’m having here.
And so I use some Aquanet clean the whole bed again. Again, it does not dissolve in water at all that hairspray does not dissolve anymore and
Frank
Rubbing alcohol or what what’s the
Chris
No, you want, you want something that is a plastic absolvent something kind of like finger nail.
Kevin
Acetone?
Frank
Acetone that’s the one I was trying to think of
Chris
Yeah Acetone. Finger nail polish remover.
Frank
Now Andy is so concerned about stinking up his house that acetone may not be the right move either
Andy
You know, so it’s not working. And I use the Aquanet and I get it all cleaned off the bed. I put some Aquanet down.
All of my problems go away. It’s back to being perfect the way it was,
except that cleaning it off the part like requires a little bit of extra agitation.
It takes me out twice as long because before I would just run it under water and wipe it off with my hand a couple of times and it was gone
with the Aquanet, you kind of scrub it a little bit, you know,
and then it’s gone it’s not much of a I don’t have to like scrub it off or use anything it’s still just dilutes or dissolves in water you know,
Is that what you got there Chris he’s showing a can of hairspray.
Chris
Yeah, that’s Aquanet.
Andy
Yeah, yeah the unscented big purple can right.
Chris
Yep.
Andy
Yeah, so.
Chris
Flammable avoid heat.
Andy
Yeah, here I am sticking it into my enclosure full of heat.
I don’t know what’s going on with the with the RAV4 stuff but I’m completely abandoning it and go into Aquanet for now.
I might try a couple other hairsprays to see if I can find something that was as good as the RAV4
but the RAV4 is not good and and any any shade I threw at
Yeah, I love Elegoo’s printing or Elegoo’s PLA was unwarranted to because it wasn’t the PLA’s problem
PLA is just fine it’s printed beautifully back there now that I’ve got my proper adhesion stuff so
Chris
Yeah, no, I buy elegoo.
Amidst all the other cheap stuff I buy too, and It’s been some of the better stuff.
Kevin
Yeah, I was going to say I’ve always had, I’ve always thought LLU was a great product.
Andy
I do I love Elegoo but just the first time I use their PLA was the midst this
and so I couldn’t tell is the PLA the problem you know, because I was able to buy it so much cheaper.
Frank
Andy
So Andy I
Know that you are severely opposed to this idea
Andy
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Frank
I’m gonna suggest that you try a test print in your heat soaked
Environment without in without any adhesion and see how it does
Chris
Without hairspray.
Andy
I can give it a shot. I can give it a shot. Yeah.
Either way, I’m back to being able to print like normal again which is good and Aquanet’s always available
so that I’m back to being fine again, but I will have to try without because if that works, actually, you know what to be absolutely honest.
I’ll go into this a little bit more here.
The amount of electricity is that I will wind up using to heat my enclosure here might be better played out using hairspray.
I think I’d prefer hairspray than running it hot all the time.
Frank
Hmm
Andy
Now on to that I got my my wonderful enclosure set up here. Let me show that to you guys here.
Kind of cool.
Chris
Visual listening here.
We got.
Andy
Mm hmm. So here’s, here’s my enclosure that I got set up. It’s quite a bit bigger than my printer.
Frank
Pretty
Chris
It’s just, it’s just, it’s as, it’s as big as your dryer.
Andy
It is huge, but it holds the entire printer.
Chris
It’s bulging.
Andy
Now Chris was asking me earlier why I decided to keep my spool inside the enclosure,
Chris
Well, it fits.
Andy
and that that that one of the biggest reasons for that is that the amount of heat you’re going to heat the enclosure up to is only going to be about 60 Degrees Celsius, 70 degrees Celsius somewhere in that range,
which is…
Chris
Well, about the same as your plate bed.
Andy
Yeah, which is is fine. Well, I mean for for PLA I don’t even heat the bed.
But for PETG, I do heat it to anywhere between 50 to 70 it depends on how flat I’m printing.
If I’m printing a big flat thing on the bed with straight lines, I’ll tend to use more heat and if it’s not very much contact with the bed, I’ll I’ll use, you know, very little heat so.
But the air that will be inside of this printer is going to be very dry. So I think having the spool in that area would be better for this.
Now, some people might be concerned about wet noodle problem because it you know the the plastic does get a little bit more soft.
And one thing that is very different about my setup is I am water cooled. I have a very cold below ambient temperature cold zone on my my heater, and it stays very cold, even inside the heated chamber.
So as soon as it soon as the PLA gets to that part, it is cooled down substantially before going into the hot end, and that’s able to keep me from dealing with any heat creep.
So I haven’t.
Frank
And it you’d have the added benefit of reconditioned. Well, you wouldn’t have to recondition it would stay conditioned as long as it was in the
The tent
Chris
And the, and being used, but yeah.
Andy
Yeah, yeah.
So that’s kind of the plan. I did learn a few things about my heated enclosure. Now the one I got for our visual listeners is like a tent. It’s like if you took a pizza delivery bag and turned it into a turn it into a tent.
Chris
And blew it up.
Andy
And so it’s you know it’s got the shiny inside and whatnot but
Chris
Yeah, it literally looks like a pizza pizza.
Frank
A little bit of insulation
Chris
Yeah, a pizza delivery bag, except it’s the size of a dryer appliance.
Andy
Yeah, no kidding.
And I got an oversized you can tell that the box I’ve got here is bigger than what I needed. But if you guys look at my bed, the way my bed mounts is through, you know, bolts in the front.
My bed is a 300 by 300 millimeter print surface. But as you can see my bed is actually quite a bit longer than it is wide.
Andy
Chris
Bolts in the front party in the back.
Frank
Well, bolts in the back too actually but…
Andy
And yeah, yeah, and and
Yeah, and that caused it so when my bed is slinging out to its maximum and all the way back to its minimum. I’ve got quite a bit more space forward and backward that I need.
And so you can see in this current enclosure, I actually need the amount of space I had here.
Chris
Ah. whereas unlike my printer, my printer only goes past the past the front feet by like maybe 10 millimeters at best at most, whereas yours is quite a bit more.
Andy
One thing.
Yeah, it’s almost four inches on both sides past the past the feet of the printer. So, so that’s mainly the reason why I needed a bigger one now looking at this one thing I could have considered is you can see that the front window, when it the way it zips up it also zips across the
Ceiling of the enclosure, I probably could have got away with tilting this whole thing sideways, you know, on its back, and still would have been able to use it and because it’s much taller than it is long.
And, but then I wouldn’t have been able to have the window and stuff like that. So, even though I got a big one you can see I actually did need this particular dimension to be this large.
Chris
Well, it looks.
It looks bigger on the inside.
Andy
Yeah, another thing that I realized is that when I first got this, I tried firing it up and printing something on the inside and with my bed heated up to 70 degrees, actively printing PETG because I was making my new, my new spool holder.
um the temperature on the inside of here only raised by about five degrees. So the printer itself does not produce enough heat to actually heat this enclosure. So, what I decided to do.
Chris
Oh, our dreams of using the enclosure to recondition our plastic.
Frank
Well at least with that kind of volume air volume to warm up
Chris
True.
Andy
So, what I decided to do is I got one of these little tiny ceramic heaters that I can put inside of here. And my idea was they make heaters for enclosures but they’re like 60 or 70 bucks.
And so I decided what I will do is I’ll buy one of these cheap ceramic heaters this one’s a 300 watt heater I think a 500 watt, the 500 watt heater.
Chris
Turn up for what?
Andy
What’s that.
Chris
Said turn up for what?
Andy
Oh no 500 watts so it uses 500 watts of power and…+
Chris
Is poor bad joke.
Andy
Oh, sorry.
But one of the things I was thinking to do and is first off I’ll put it in here and I’ll just see how hot it gets. And it topped out at about 63 degrees Celsius on the inside here.
And that was it running all the time. It looks like the thermal protection for the heater is higher than 60 C. So I was considering initially of making a thermostat for it, a digital thermostat so I can control the heat.
But I think I might leave it the way it is right now having it run all the time this enclosure is not very insulated.
So it’s losing heat itself, and it seems to top out at like about 63 degrees Celsius before that.
Frank
You had one job
Andy
Yeah, that’s as hot as it will get.
Chris
Hot box.
Andy
So I’m going to give this a shot I might try to print some nylon today and see how it goes but about 60 degrees Celsius is pretty good for an enclosure temperature I think.
And if I honestly need more I can consider getting some insulation wrap for the enclosure if I really need to, and got enough room to even put the insulation on the inside if I wanted to, but you know we’ll see how it goes.
Frank
Like some pink housing or household insulation and it would fill the volume too so that you wouldn’t have to put so much energy into heating it
Andy
Yeah, really.
Chris
Well, even, even my enclosure that I’m mostly put together is going to be lined simply with that cheap silver bubble wrap.
So.
Andy
Okay, that’s still add some insulation I mean just the one that I got is that there’s just no insulation at all, it is just that foil material on the inside and like a canvas on the outside.
Frank
Hmm
Andy
So, another thing that I thought was kind of funny about this one is the front screen of it is a clear piece of vinyl.
And from what I read that kind of vinyl that PVC vinyl has a max temperature of about 140 degrees Fahrenheit.
So whatever that is in Celsius it’s above the I’ll be heating it above the glass point for the the vinyl that makes up the window here.
So, I’ve decided just to go ahead and go with it I’m not going to worry about the temperature the vinyl deals with if the vinyl does start to go.
I’ll replace it with a piece of plexi of just hard plexi glass, and I’m sure that’ll be just fine.
Chris
With hot glue.
Andy
I don’t know how I’ll connect it.
That’s a problem for future Andy he’ll figure it out he’s pretty smart.
Frank
He’s got a 3d printer
Chris
So yeah, it’s right there.
Kevin
63 Degrees Celsius is 145.4 Fahrenheit
Andy
Okay, so I’m running it really right there so we’ll see what happens to it.
It will probably find that’s not the melting temperature that’s the plastic deform glass point temperature of the vinyl.
Frank
And that also with the inside temperature that discounts the outside temperature affecting it too. Soo…
You may be okay
Andy
So, it.
Yeah, yeah that’s true there.
You got a good point yeah because it will be exposed to the outside so.
I didn’t check you know next time I got this warm, I’ll get the thermal camera out and check the surface temperature of the outside and see what temperature it’s getting up to but you’re probably right it probably will be just.
Andy
Oh really.
Chris
And you’ll know right away because the window won’t disconnect, but it’ll definitely start shrinking and you’ll notice that.
Andy
Okay.
Frank
Or waving or melting
Andy
I’ll keep an eye on that, but it is kind of neat in here I got the thermal camera once it was up to temperature and was kind of looking around in here it’s neat seeing everything so hot on the inside.
And then just in my whole extruder assembly, being only at about 55 degrees, and then the hot end below that, you know at 200 200 degrees.
Chris
Yeah, that.
Andy
These, these water cooling your cold side of your printer is is pretty neat for the for an enclosure like this, I think.
Chris
I find it interesting that is, is that the, the, the radiative assembly on the outside of the enclosure.
Andy
So, yeah, you can kind of see, I’ve got two hoses right here that are going into it, and this whole gear box is is metal, and I think I showed pictures before the cold side, where the filament goes through, kind of like a radiator on the non water cooled
This one here it’s just going through a big piece of metal that is this pop this this heat block,
Chris
Okay.
Andy
this water water cooling block, and so it goes through there.
Frank
So instead of having a heat sink you’ve just got the the water cooled channels inside it and
Like a regular ready radiator at that point
Andy
Yeah, and then it goes straight into the the, what’s it called the heat break tube, the bimetal heat break tube and then right up into the head.
And this is what I was talking about earlier Chris now that I can show you that I’ve only got about 15 millimeters from the top of the nozzles melt zone to where the gears are that actually push it through, push the filament through.
Chris
Oh.
Andy
So my wet noodle, or my yeah my wet noodle problem is only like 15 millimeters long, and this completely got rid of all of my problems with printing TPU.
You can see this extruder this is the h2 extruder, they call it the h2o for the water cooled version of it, but it’s very small. It uses a Neema 19 I believe instead of a 17.
You can see it’s substantially smaller than your typical Neema 17.
So I get plenty of torque, but I do have an upper speed limit I think my max speed I can move filament through it is only about 20 millimeters a second,
Chris
Only.
Andy
and that is mostly the limitation of my controller being an eight bit controller.
So it just can’t tell the stepper motor to turn much faster so there’s an upper limit to that but 20 is that does that you say only but that does affect retraction speeds, because you may not be pushing the filament out anything close to that.
But when you retract,
Chris
Oh.
Andy
yeah you do you do have it you know you do kind of notice it so if you’re trying to retract really super fast, the h2 might not necessarily be for you it does have an upper limit if you’re running an eight bit board.
If you’re running something that isn’t eight bit, you can probably run it quite a bit faster, but that’s mostly because it’s geared down so much, you know, to give you that extra torque.
I’ve got it running on pretty low current, pretty darn low current it’s almost all as far down as you can turn my current limiter on the stepper driver.
So that stepper motor, even though it’s turning a lot, it runs quite cool.
And since it’s also connected to the rest of the feeder that is water cooled, the water cooling also cools that stepper motor so if I ever wanted to to get more torque out of it.
That would be an option but right now it doesn’t seem to be much of a problem.
Another problem I ran into outside of this is I was getting some slight pillowing of the upper services of my prints and a lot of that has to do with not having enough part cooling.
And so I checked my nozzle for my part cooling fan and it is I’ve showed you these in the past it was completely melted closed by nozzle just because it’s you know it sits right next to the the heat block so it was completely closed off again.
And I’ve got to print another one.
I’ve got one that I printed in in PL or in PETG that I was using.
And when I first got my resin printer, I printed one out of resin.
That way I can see how how well it would work and this was before I realized that the cheaper resins you can buy to have pretty big thermal problems it’s worse than PLA.
Chris
Yeah, you want, you want to get the, the good stuff if you want it to stand up to heat.
Andy
Yeah, and so I did I bought some high temperature resin.
I’ll be getting that tomorrow but I’m going to try to reprint the nozzle for my FDM printer using the resin printer.
And you can see in these nozzles here I’ve shortened them almost as far as they can go they used to have a big nozzle that would come out right here and you know point down directly over the hot end and that worked really good but would constantly melt.
So I’m hoping to take my original design for these and and print it using high temp resin.
Andy
The stuff I got claims it can stand up to 230 degrees Celsius.
So we’ll see how that goes.
That should be more than enough figuring I usually never run my hot end hotter than 230 and it doesn’t have to.
Frank
And that would take direct contact
Andy
Yeah, it doesn’t have to touch the nozzle so…
Frank
Good deal
Andy
that’s that’s the idea there so we’ll see how this goes I’m going to try to print some nylon over these next this next week and see if I can print something taller than I have been able to.
And I’m also going to try to print under heat using PLA and PETG to see if I notice any benefits.
It’s already turned out pretty good.
Right now you can see I’m dealing with a little bit of Z wobble, and I haven’t I mentioned that last time you guys can see the top of my Z screw is actually mounted.
Andy
The bearing is mounted in place.
If I can pull off this knob real quick here.
It’s stuck on there pretty good.
There we go.
Chris
Woah, playing with your knob.
Andy
Yeah, playing with my knobs.
So you can see the.
Yeah, yeah, that’s right.
Frank
That’s right
You you said yours is stabilized whereas newer models are allowed some movement
Andy
Yeah, you can see the top of mine goes right through a bearing that is completely locked into place.
So I’m thinking about just removing this bearing and letting it the Z screw walk up here inside of the hole for the bearing.
And hopefully that will get rid of some of my Z wobble that I’m having problems with.
But it’s not that noticeable, like you can barely see it on my print season on camera here.
So they’ve been turning out pretty good.
Frank
Fun!
Chris
Cool.
Andy
But so that was that adventure.
I think the only other thing I did is I printed a couple more drawer boxes.
You guys can see my drawer boxes back there, getting a little bit bigger with more, more stuff in them.
Frank
I feel like you’ve slowed down a little bit though
Chris
Oh, the drawer boxes.
Andy
Yeah, I have I’ve been fighting this.
Yeah, when I when I started having a little bit of the curling issues, I stopped printing them until I was able to get that fixed.
So.
Kevin
That makes sense
Andy
Yeah, and now that it’s fixed, I printed one last night and I’m going to keep on going.
I got some brand new fuses and stuff.
You know, I mentioned, I’m going to start including through whole fuses in my projects because I discovered they’re really cheap to buy.
And so I got to put that in. And then I’m kind of running into a problem where I don’t really have big groups of components anymore to go into my drawer boxes.
It’s always a couple, just a couple different kinds of things, you know, I’ve only used like four or five different kinds of MOSFETs.
So to do like a whole little array of drawers of MOSFETs kind of feels funny.
So I’m thinking about getting together a bunch of components that are all about the same size, like physical that would use the physical same physical size drawer and doing them all in one group.
So I might have four or five MOSFETs and they’re all going to be, you know, next to each other in the big drawer box.
But, you know, up till this point, I’ve been taking and, okay, I’m doing all of my resistors, okay, I’m doing all of my inductors, you know, I’m doing all of my capacitors in one big group.
And I’ve kind of run out of these big groups to do. So I think I got to start pulling off a lot of the little things that I use all the time and do those in groups and kind of arrange them by drawer size, instead of, you know, what they are,
Unless there’s components that require a bigger drawer, then I’ll put those aside and deal with them later. But yeah, that’s…
Chris
Like capacitors.
Andy
yeah, yeah, yeah, my capacitors, all my capacitors were all pretty much the same drawer size.
I use the three by three on all of the electrolytic capacitors, the ceramic capacitors I used a four by four grid, because they’re so much tinier.
But yeah, wasn’t like potentiometers. That one there, I’ve got, I got tons of different kinds of drawer sizes on my potentiometers, you can kind of see over there.
Chris
Oh.
Andy
I got all that whole little red group right there is all potentiometers. And I’ve got small drawers, medium sized drawers and big drawers, especially with that wonderful drawer right there that says knob all over it.
I’ve been running around calling everybody pot knobs since I had to make that label.
Frank
On my side when you said that you kind of cut out and it felt like you
Chris
were censoring yourself.
it was great.
Frank
Or or the system was censoring you anyway, I think I’m just gonna leave that in
Andy
Oh, okay.
Frank
Let let people think what they’re gonna
Andy
Okay.
Just a drawer full of knobs, potentiometer knobs, pot knob. It’s been my insult for people lately, yeah, pot knob.
Kevin
I like it
Chris
Yeah, take off. Eh.
Andy
But some that’s pretty much my week, I think I’ve other projects for my son’s.
What’s he doing his play that he’s doing.
We needed to make rocks, I think I remember mentioning that gonna 3D print a rock. And we decided not to do that and to take I think it was Chris that offered the idea of making rocks out of foam.
Chris
Yeah, much easier.
Andy
So the wife’s been working on these foam rocks that are all different color that look like aquarium pebbles.
Chris
That looks like a rock. Yeah.
Andy
Yeah, yeah. And the kids can pelt each other with them without hurting the rock which is great and I don’t think I’ll even hurt the kid.
Frank
Or each other probably should start with not hurting each other and then not hurting the rock but
Chris
Not damaging.
Kevin
Right
Andy
They’re kids kids can heal the rocks can’t heal so my my concern is definitely about hurting the rock.
Chris
Priorities.
Frank
Since I’m the only one without kids I will accept that you’re not our parent so
Andy
Oh, it’s all good.
Andy
No, I’m just joking about that.
Chris
Dad, I dropped my laptop on my toe.
How’s your laptop?
Andy
Well, there are sometimes as a parent man where you just they hurt themselves over and over and over. And I’ve had some some bad parent moments where you’ll hear a thump, and then, you know, it’ll start crying.
And instead of being the concerned parent you just been the concerned parent so much for injuries, and it just kind of turns into okay.
Chris
What did you learn?
Andy
Now what are you leaking do I need to bring a bandaid with me.
Frank
Empathy exhaustion
Chris
Mine.
Mine is, mine is generally.
Okay.
Now what did you learn?
Frank
Well your child
Kevin
Mine has been mine has been that’s why I told you not to do that next time maybe you’ll listen
Andy
No kidding.
Frank
Chris only barely qualifies as a parent anyway, he’s got an only child
Andy
No, I don’t know that’s, you know, going from an only child to having three. It’s a little different but it’s there.
Frank
Rivalry
Andy
They’re just as dumb as the other two so they know the same problems.
It just the one thing he doesn’t have a whole lot of is the ability for another child to rat on him so there’s problems that come with that. But there’s also solutions because now you’ve got little tiny police officers that kind of monitor each other to some extent.
Frank
Happily rat out their sibling
Andy
And
Yeah, yeah, so there’s positives and minuses. It’s about the same amount of work though I think.
Frank
It wasn’t me it was him
Chris
Well, yeah, but having an, having an only child, you know, when
Andy
Did there’s those moments that they take care of each other too.
Frank
That’s fair so Kevin did you do anything this week?
Chris
when candy bars go missing, there’s only one real culprit.
Kevin
I did now I didn’t do anything with the fdm printer but
But with the with the sla printer I got that tough resin in
Chris
Oh man.
Kevin
And interesting thing is it’s it’s any cubic brand and this bottle doesn’t say
Even though it was advertised as tough resin this bottle says abs like resin
It’s the same stuff, but then I also noticed that it has it’s gray
This is not the by far not the first bottle of gray tough resin
But all the other bottles of gray tough resin have spelled it g r e y the british way
This one is g r a y the american way, so I just thought that was interesting
Um
Andy
Yeah, that’s weird.
Frank
Maybe someone was just being more self-conscious about how they labeled things and labeled it for Americans
Kevin
Yeah, probably um, but what I did with it is I I reprinted the uh the tallest
Uh that viscountess character that I was talking about because um, you may recall
I said I think it was last week that I took it I gave it to the player
She was super happy with it and then within 10 minutes she had broken the staff
And the the character is casting a lightning spell from her hand and that broke off
And so I was like, okay, I’m gonna reprint it not a problem
Andy
Oh, geez.
Kevin
Actually, I had printed another one, but it was standard resin, so I’m like I’m not I’m not gonna mess with the standard resin again
I’m gonna just give her the tough so I printed that one and then I also
Printed this is the uh cobalt character in the campaign zim the green and the the character
Andy
Oh, cool.
Frank
Not to be confused with Invader Zim
Kevin
Right, um, the they call him the scaly goblin, but and my camera’s not focusing just a second. Let me
See if I can focus it better. That’s worse
Frank
Or
Kevin
Going the other way going the other way
Okay, so the guy the player wanted it to have the buckler actually strapped to the forearm because titan craft only wanted him to be able to have a like
Holding it with one strap going around the forearm the other one
Being in his um in the character’s hand
But he’s like no, I want the guy to be holding the sword with two hands and I don’t know how to do that
Frank
As it’s a double-handed sword
Chris
It is a very big sword for his side.
Kevin
It is a very big sword and titan craft unlike hero forge doesn’t have the
Like grip the weapon with two hands option
And so he’s like, I don’t know how to if you can do anything with this, but this is what I want and I was like
Yeah, dude, uh, I got you and so I did that
I’m gonna present it to him today and he’s gonna be I think he’s gonna be really happy with it
Frank
Good
Kevin
Um
Oh, I just found a support that I need to cut off between the character’s chest and the sword. Anyway, then
Chris
That’s not where I thought you were going with that.
Kevin
Then there’s the uh goblin engineer character clank. No, this is yeah, this is clingwack, I think
Chris
Wow, I was thinking Clang Destine.
Kevin
So he’s got his heavy armor and the halberd and the war hammer
Frank
That’s a lot of stuff to carry I’d be worried about tripping over my gear
Kevin
Yeah, but it it’s pathfinder. So you just kind of hand wave some of that away and then finally
Frank
You mean like you know a lot of RPGs where you you carry a bunch of stuff in your backpack that doesn’t normally fit
Chris
It’s bigger on the inside.
Kevin
And then finally there’s this spark boom
Um, kind of it’s the gunslinger and the group and the the player
Kevin
Had actually done a mock-up of the character on hero forge
And he sent me a screenshot of that and said if you can make it look
Approximately like this
Then except have it be female because the one he did on hero forge was a male goblin
Andy
Okay.
Kevin
Harry goblin and I I was like sure thing
So you can’t really tell because of how she’s holding the gun
But this is a female template and I actually
Chris
It looks like John Adams was a goblin.
Kevin
But um, I actually
Perfectly recreated in titan craft what the guy had done on hero forge
Even though Titan craft doesn’t have the capability Innately to have the character hold the weapon with both hands
If you’re good with titan craft though, you can do it yourself. So that’s what I did
Frank
Good deal
Andy
Okay.
So they don’t get brittle.
Kevin
And I’m not planning on putting any of these in the cure station
Because it’ll keep it yeah, I mean because I know that I I used the tough resin
Frank
Which kind of what you want so
Kevin
So it won’t be as brittle as standard resin anyway
But if I don’t cure them at all, then they’re still going to be boingy
Chris
Well, if you’re just exposing them to a little oingo boingo instead of the cure, I think you’ll be okay.
Kevin
I will take your word for it see my previous comment about listening to alternative
Chris
80 cents, man.
Andy
So does the does the ABS like residents seem to work work well for staying flexible on your models?
Kevin
Yeah, um, I have I have used the uh, the tough resin for other models that I have actually cured and they do just fine
Kevin
In In my house and I actually I actually printed um, a few of those for my sons and one of them in particular had a dnd club at his elementary school so he would take on dnd days
He would take a couple of the miniatures that I had printed to school with them and they were and I had cured those
And they were just fine
I just want to be a little extra careful with these ones by not putting them in the cure station
Andy
Makes sense.
Frank
Sounds fun
You’ll have to let us know if that has the desired effect even then I mean even if they only last like a week longer
Well, I mean in game a week longer
Chris
I just had the thought that you have an FDM printer, so maybe you can start printing up some of those Rough and Tumble boxes.
Kevin
I’ve I’ve actually got one
Um that I made out of uh a box that I got from work and padding that I got from work
And and that’s actually what I gave to kyle to take the miniatures to and from school in
Andy
Okay.
Kevin
And so that’s what I use to transport them. I’m saying though that like it was this the player herself
Broke the uh rhe miniature by um
Chris
Mishandling it, and dropping it.
That’s normal.
Kevin
And so that was but like I said, that was with standard resin
Which is a lot more brittle than this tough resin. So I’m pretty sure this is going to
Have the desired effect and it’ll last for quite a while
Andy
Okay.
Frank
Good deal
Kevin
But
Speaking of things not lasting as long as you would hope
Um last night
Frank
Did you already break the one statue
Kevin
No, no, no, no, um last night
Kyle came in and was wanting to
And he said I think I need to hot glue this
I didn’t see what he was talking about because he was talking to jess
Kevin
And then he said oh, or maybe I’ll try super glue first
Well
We went to disneyland a couple weeks ago actually it’s probably closer to a month now
Um and
In the star wars area he had built his own lightsaber
And last night he had it outside and he cracked it
Frank
Oh boy
Andy
Okay.
Kevin
And um
He was mishandling it
He was using it in a manner not intended by the people who made it
And so we were discussing options and and he said well, maybe we can find a replacement blade online
I don’t know that we’ll be able to
Because it’s a pretty specialized thing like they want you to be at disneyland to do that
Um
But I said to him
Dude, I’ve got a couple of 3d printers
We could probably 3d print our way out of this if we can’t find a solution online
Like
Chris
Yep.
Kevin
It would i’m like it looking at the design. I was like it would be
Not
Difficult for me at all to come up with something if I can’t
Find something that somebody has already done
And I said and I
So I I did say if I were to use my resin printer
I’d have to shorten
Each segment of the telescoping blade
But I could conceivably get it to where it would telescope out to the same length
And then I would just use because it’s a green translucent blade that he’s got on it
So I was like I just use my green translucent resin and I said and failing that I could get some green translucent PETG and print one on the fdm
So
Andy
Okay.
Chris
Yeah, I mean, and this is where Calipers will really come in handy,
Kevin
Uh-huh
Chris
but you can get a really good measurement on the base diameter and then the upper diameter. Yeah.
Kevin
Yep
Andy
Nice.
Frank
Sounds like a plan once again keep us posted
Kevin
Will do
Andy
Yeah, it would be nice to get that fixed. That’s a shame that it broke really did. I mean, they know kids are going to hit stuff with them. They should have been made to be able to handle that a little better.
Chris
They use an S word.
Kevin
Well, I mean
Yeah, you’re using the s word there and and
Kevin
James was trying to say the
James made the same point and I said well, they I’m sure what they had in mind was the
Little kids like… younger than 10 are gonna have it and they’re gonna be swinging it around and it’s probably
Meant to withstand those kinds of things because they also probably figure that
Anybody older than 10 is going to say, okay
I can tell that this is kind of flimsy plastic
So I better not try to wail on my friends with it as hard as I can
But not cause any permanent damage if we make contact
And then also realizing that the the the lightsaber itself is going to be hit against other lightsabers and stuff
And so I said, you know, they’re they’re probably anticipating that you’re just going to be
Swinging it hard enough that you’ll be able to tell you got hit but not really
Mame each other and so if you block it with your lightsaber there, it’ll be fine
What they weren’t intending on when they designed this
Was that you would take it outside and start wailing on the metal poles of your trampoline as hard as you can with it
Andy
Okay.
Chris
Okay, so to be fair.
If a kid broke it doing that, he deserved what he got.
Frank
I would tend to agree myself
Kevin
Yeah, and and so we were like, okay. Yeah, dude, you were using it in a manner that is not its intended use
And that’s why it broke
Chris
Why did these parts keep falling out of my clicky hammers?
Frank
Well, I think we’re good to go does anybody have anything else they want to share real quick
Andy
Not really. I think that’s about it for me this week. Yeah.
Oh, Kevin, inside of your inside of your curing station,
Your washing cure station, does your alcohol evaporate?
Kevin
Um not really because it’s got
Andy
Do you got a lid on the container itself inside of the cure station?
You do. Okay.
Mine does not have a lid and I have lost like four cups of alcohol.
Just since I last used it, I’ve been noticing that the level is dropped quite a bit.
Kevin
Yeah, that’ll happen without a lid
Chris
And you’ll get concentrated resin instead of cleaning solution.
Andy
I might have to 3D print one for it.
I don’t know.
I would expect it should have came with a lid, but it didn’t.
Frank
That’s an odd oversight.
Andy
It is not.
That’s not oversight.
Frank
I say that’s an odd oversight
Andy
Oh, yeah.
Weird.
Anyway, just something I noticed.
Chris
Um, yeah. Um, I was thinking that I designed my enclosure to have my spool mount on top. So I’m going to be doing that. So my, my spool is not going to be in the enclosure like yours is Andy.
Andy
No, that’s fine. That’s why I see most people do it anyway.
There may be a reason to it that I haven’t stumbled across yet.
Chris
But the nice thing is that the way my spool, my spool mount is made, it is very easy for me to just keep the same spool mount, the same nice spool mount with the roller bearings and metal frame and just mount that straight to the, to the enclosure.
Andy
Yeah, that’s good.
Chris
So I’m looking forward.
Andy
That is one thing that was kind of sad with this one here is I couldn’t use the original spool
Holder that I made that way back in the day that I was really proud of anymore.
I still got it. I wound up keeping it. It’s got some sentimental value.
That was like the first real design I ever made.
Frank
It’s so strange Andy you you and your sentimentality
Andy
So, yeah, a pair of bonds with everything.
Yeah, got personality to me.
Frank
Yeah, honestly, that’s kind of why I keep you around too so
Chris
Sentimental value.
Andy
Oh, thanks.
Frank
Some personality
Andy
Some personality.
Chris
Yeah, that is some personality.
Frank
And on that note we’d like to thank everyone for listening to the very end
Chris
Very, very end.
Frank
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Kevin
Keep your FEP tight
Andy
Always use good quality hairspray meant for 3D printing or not necessarily meant for printing, but works well for 3D printing.
Frank
Or maybe don’t
Chris
Oh man.
Andy
If you don’t want adhesion issues, use hairspray.
Chris
I got a new trailer but I think I forgot something.
So when I hit the road, it went off without a hitch.
Frank
That was like a freight train I saw it coming I was standing on the tracks and I could not move
Chris
And you could not avoid it.
Andy
That’s a good one.