Frank
Thank you for joining us. This is episode 75 of amateur 3d podcast a podcast by
amateur printers for amateur printers where we share our thoughts and
experience. Our panelists this week are just me and my friend Chris Weber.
Everybody, everybody abandoned us this week, dude.
Chris
They had good reasons, I mean Disneyland dude
Frank
Yeah, I mean I can’t blame Kevin for not wanting to join us while he was driving
home to Salt Lake.
Chris
That’s true, he should probably be around just past Eli by now.
Frank
Some where between Anaheim and Salt Lake anyway, that would suck. Especially
since he’s not planning to actually get into town until like midnight, maybe a
little later. And Andy, you know, does the thing where he
criticizes us for using things over the podcast and then chooses to go spend time
with his family? So…
Chris
Well, I don’t know, he said something about the in-laws, so I wouldn’t want to fight that either.
Frank
His wife’s mother-in-law is kind of kooky though.
Well…
Chris
Well, I’ll start out, I saw something kind of funny this week, I was out thrifting, you know, I collect old video games and so whenever the wife goes out to the thrift store, I like to go along just to look at video games and I, well, I saw some, they were, and it was the original Mario Brothers Duck Hunt cartridge.
Right.
And I’m like, oh, sweet.
Um, but it was behind the counter behind the jewelry counter.
Chris
So I have them, I have the lady pull it out for me and $25 for the cartridge and I’m going, yeah, dang it.
Frank
I was going to say that seems like a low, low cost.
Was it in decent shape?
Chris
But that’s
Oh, it was in pretty good shape. And it was, but it was just the cartridge. I would normally expect a cartridge like that to be like, you know, maybe $10
Frank
Gotcha.
Chris but let me Google that real quick, because I’m like, no, I’m curious.
Frank
Because I would think that would be a collector’s item.
We’ve talked in the past about how for something to be considered a classic at some point in
Chris
yeah, there it is.
Frank
its life it has to be worth less than nothing and I’m pretty sure that it qualifies.
Chris
10, 10 bucks on
Yep.
10 bucks on eBay, 10 bucks on GameStop.
So it’s
Frank
So maybe just not enough people willing to pay good money for it then.
Chris
Yeah, I think maybe they started overpricing some of their game stuffs because they know they’ve got collectors coming in looking for them.
But anyway, that wasn’t the, that wasn’t the real point I was getting to is right after that.
She was putting it away and right behind her was this red and closed 3D printer and I was like, Oh, what is that? And yeah, it was an FDM printer with a bed smaller than mine.
So I was already going. No, it’s not a good replacement, but they eat it in the middle of the game.
They wanted like, it was about 60 bucks for it and the heater element was out. Otherwise working. And I was like, well, actually, that is pretty good.
Frank
That’s not a horrible ask.
Chris
So yeah
Frank
Assuming they price it according to what that machine would be worth anywhere else.
Chris
probably
I mean, but it was a fully enclosed unit. So I would, it would be capable of doing, you know, nylon ABS, etc. Just right from the get go. So I imagine that people wanting to get in on the cheap can now start finding used older printers at thrift. It’s where we’re at that point.
Frank
Right.
I mean, I didn’t think that we’d arrived there.
I thought we were still a while out.
Chris
But
Nope, apparently not. Because I guess whoever had that one must have, because if the heater element went out and they were like, Well, it’s going to be better for me to this is a great excuse for me to upgrade. I’m just going to thrift this. I would have thought that, you know, he would he to stuck it on eBay or, you know, even the local ads to get a little bit of his money back, but we didn’t even bother.
Frank
I mean, it’s not like it’s that expensive to put $10 into a new heater.
And accoutrements.
Chris
Right.
Or even if you’re using it as an excuse, you know, pop it up on your local listings for 20 bucks, you know, Facebook marketplace or whatever you do and even even get your, you know, recyclers worth of money back out of it.
Frank
It’s a lot of aluminum if nothing else.
Chris
Right.
But yeah, here we are. They’re, they’re, they’re starting to be found in thrift stores. So keep your eye out if you’re trying to get into the market on the cheap.
Frank
There we go.
Did you work on anything this week or just thrift?
Chris
Well, that was the, that was the one thing. The second thing was, I finally got prodded and poked enough into continuing my project with the child’s bedroom to paint it.
So we’re getting started.
You know, I was okay. I was okay enough with the mudding job that I had finished up. I was okay enough with the way it looked to say, yes, now we can paint.
Frank
Is it okay?
So we didn’t do our one year anniversary.
We didn’t do new years.
You think we can do the episode 100 at your place?
Chris
Actually, definitely. I’m, I’m actually that far along. So, um, so that paint mixer that I printed up, I finally put it together and used it.
Frank
Good deal.
Now, I did see it.
I can’t remember if you said was that printed solid or is it big enough to justify a solid?
It almost doesn’t look big enough.
Chris
No, it didn’t have like, it’s all walls, anyway.
It didn’t have like it’s all walls, anyway.
No, it didn’t have like, it’s all walls anyway. It’s all, yeah. So there’s no, there was no
need to change the infill on it.
Frank
Yeah, it’s just a bunch of fins, right?
Chris
Yep. Just a bunch of fins around the tube. And yeah,
had me a, an old piece of steel rod in the garage that was just exactly the right size to,
because I didn’t think about this beforehand and pre print, pre print to a size of rod I had,
I was just going to print it as it was, and then you’ll find something that would fit it
in the garage later. So I didn’t, I was, I didn’t really think that through, but I got lucky.
Frank
Well, you do get lucky with stuff like that more often than not.
Probably because you have resources to say, nope, this rod’s too big.
Nope, this one’s too small.
This won’t fit.
Chris
That’s true. I do keep a few of those kinds of things around in case I got to weld up some exhaust,
Frank
Right.
Chris
because I did have to weld some exhaust last month and almost needed to put on a new,
you know, the rod that the hanger sticks to, you know, almost had to weld a new one of those on
too. So that’s why I keep various pieces of rod hanging around.
Frank
That makes sense.
Chris
Yep, that’s what I did with the
printer. I’ve been looking at different articles, you know, as my machine’s run at work, I’ll look
at different articles that got going around. And this week, actually, I found a pretty fun one.
It’s a blender add on to turn any 2D image into a 3D model. So you print it. So basically,
you know, how you can go on thingiverse and there’ll be like a two dimensional drag in or
something for a shadow box, you know, this, this thing basically does that. So you can take a bunch
of two dimensional images and throw them into blender. And it’ll print it like, you know,
what, maybe 10 layers thick or whatever, however thick you want it as a two dimensional object.
So if you want to do if you want to make yourself a shadow box, this is the way to do it. You can
take you use whatever image software you normally would use, I probably use GIMP to make whatever
two dimensional picture you want, you know, and you can make it, you know, cut it off at the ends
at whatever, so that it’ll fit in the frame. And you can shadow box yourself out a nice little
picture. Now, kind of cool.
Frank
Yeah, sounds fun.
You know, Andy, a little while ago, I can’t really recall.
Andy, a little while ago, actually before…
No, it was the Christmas before you guys got…
You and Kevin got your printers the first time.
Andy was working on this thing where Cura will let you import a photograph and choose how thick the shades are.
So like if you only do like four layers thick or something like that, then it’ll split all the shades in the picture up into that many layers.
And then when you put it up against the window or something, they’ll come through as a shaded picture.
Chris
Oh, you mean, oh, yeah, the lithograph.
Frank
Yeah, that’s it.
And those were…
That was one of the things that kind of appealed to me a lot that I haven’t done anything with since I got my printer.
Chris
Right. Like, actually, that I thought that was one of the fun things I was going to try to do
with that was not a lithograph, but a lithophane. And apparently, lithophanes are actually just
best done with a resin printer. FDMs don’t do them quite as well.
Frank
You would be able to get more variety for thinner layers.
I mean, I guess you could do… take a normal photograph, semi-normal, you know, what is it, 12-bit?
No, what did windows do?
It was just 12 colors, right?
Originally, like back in the day, it was 30 colors.
Chris
Um, 16.
Frank
16, maybe that’s what it was.
Anyway, if you do just like 16 layers and make them all, I don’t know, five-hundredths of a millimeter thick, then you get a decent three millimeter thick lithograph or however you said.
Not have it too thick.
Chris
Yeah, I don’t know what the difference between those two words is. I know lithophane is the
actual word. What is a lithograph?
Frank
To the Google.
Chris
To the Google. Oh, okay. So that’s the difference. It’s a lithograph is what we were talking about.
It is one layer on top of another on top of another, where lithophane is just the same thing
as the same print with different thicknesses through the print to go so that when you backlight it,
you can see so.
So a lithophane is the is the single piece. It does that thing. And then the
lithograph is several pieces sandwiched together to do the thing.
Frank
Got you.
Still.
Chris
So yeah, so like a shadow box is
a lithograph.
Frank
Now I’m not so certain I’m thinking of the same kind of shadow boxes you’re talking about.
Chris
Yeah. Well, it’s like a thick picture frame. And then you put a layer in here and a layer in there.
You’ll have like a layer in the front for like some foliage or whatever else and a layer in the
middle with some half size trees and whatever you want in the middle. And then one behind that
with like some trees or mountains or something.
Frank
So you can go as deep into the background as you’ve got space to fill sort of thing.
When I think of shadow boxes, I think of like, maybe it’s because I’m a veteran, but I think of like the wooden boxes that you hang up on the wall with all your metals or your uniform or stuff like that, because those are called shadow boxes.
Chris
That is also a shadow box. Yes.
So maybe I should be more specific. A shadow box lithograph. Yeah.
Frank
There we go.
Proper terminology, because this is the amateur 3d podcast.
Chris
Yes.
We’re trying to look like we know what we’re doing. Trying.
Frank
Yes.
For all of our visual listeners, there’s the upside.
We’re both drinking right now and I don’t think that I think that one of us is sworn yet. So I think we’re doing okay.
Chris
Yes, sir.
Well,
Frank
This is what we get for doing it. Just the two of us though, right?
Chris
well, you know, I’ve got 10 years of home language with a kid behind me.
Frank
Oh, yes.
I remember when that became a thing.
Chris
Like, yeah, there’s like an on off switch in my brain for my language as soon as I am
home versus when I am at work. Right. And it’s been actually really convenient because I turn it on
anytime I have to talk to the bosses. And then when I’m in the shop, it goes off. It’s great.
Frank
That actually makes a lot of sense.
And I’ve just been doing customer service so long it’s worked out most of the foul language.
Chris
Oh, although, yeah, there is the occasional slip where I’ll be like, okay, I’ll be right back.
I’ve got to see the potty, you know, instead of excuse me for the men’s room, you know.
Frank
That’s why men used to chop wood back in the day, right? Couldn’t cuss in front of the wife so they go out and swing an axe at wood for a while and they could be as loud as they wanted.
Chris
Yeah. Speaking of work, the boss has been busy printing up more stuff.
Frank
Yeah?
Chris
He made this nice little thing. I don’t know if you know what a Trimos is.
Frank
Nope.
Chris
But it’s, it’s this really expensive German height gauge. And these things are,
they are the top of the line height gauge, really cool things. But they have this nice,
they have this little thing, this little block stack thing that every time you change the tip,
you know, so you change the tip from like a two millimeter ball to like a five millimeter ball,
or you just change the length of the tip or whatever, you take the tip out and you change it
out, right? Well, now the height gauge needs to know where that is, what it’s touching off of.
So that basically just calibrates it every time you change the tip. And, you know, if you’re
measuring different stuff with it, yeah, you’re changing the tip a lot. The chain, the tip on this,
on this one in our inspection room gets changed a lot, you know. And so it’s real. So we keep this
but this is a really precise thing, right? So you don’t want it getting dropped or knocked around
or anything like that. You don’t want to get dirty dusty. My, my boss printed off this really cool
little thing to stick on the foot of the height gauge, where you can put, take this, take this
little calibration block stack thing and set it in so that it, it’s not getting dirty. It’s not
getting roughed around. It’s not likely to get knocked on, knocked on the floor or anything.
And a little thing around it to put, you know, six different tips. I’m like, oh, that’s freaking
awesome. Because before, you know, people would come in, measure something or whatever else,
they’d change tips, and then they’d just leave that tip just laying out on the table. We lost,
Frank
That’s no good.
Chris
yep, we lost two tips because they got knocked on the floor. And so he’s going, okay,
Frank
Couldn’t trust their calibration anymore, right?
Chris
well, you just can’t trust those tips because they, well, they fell on the floor and were
obviously broken. So, but it wasn’t the calibrated stack that got knocked over, but
just, just the tips got knocked over and broke. So anyway, yeah, so he printed this little thing
to put out, put out all of those in and the tips are staying in the holder. It’s kind of fun. It’s
kind of neat. And yeah, I pushed him over to, because he was telling me he’s like, oh, I haven’t done
Frank
Good deal.
Chris
CAD, CAD in, you know, 20 some odd years and yada, yada. And I wouldn’t know the first thing about
working with CAD. I just kind of print stuff I find on the internet and whatever else. And I’m like,
yeah, I kind of do that too. But, you know, apparently it’s not that hard to, to, to get into,
to get back into it again and learn how to use it again and just, you know, make yourself an
account with Tinker CAD. And that’s what he did. And that’s what he’s been making this stuff at work
with. Kind of great.
Frank
And if you’ve got a history with it, then it’s even easier to get into, you know, take the rust off as it were.
For what you need.
Chris
Yep. He printed up this really nice caliper holder because we have, we
keep calipers by the CMM because we’re like, okay, I’ve got this and I need to know about,
about what the distance is there and so that I don’t crash my probe while I’m, you know, getting it,
getting it probed or whatever else. And so we got this nice little caliper holder
on the desk now too. It’s really great. It’s even better than a caliper case because,
Frank
Good deal.
Chris
yeah, convenient, ready to go. Win, win. But yeah, I’m still, yeah.
Frank
Man, oh man.
I pulled up one of these Trimos things and they’re
Chris
But yeah, I haven’t done anything with my printer aside from trying to change the
nozzle back to see if I could get it to get it going again. And nope, I’ve got to,
I’ve got to take the carriage off and have a look.
Frank
I’m sorry, dude.
Chris
Yeah, me too. But I did notice there’s a difference. The nozzle that I took out like has
almost 20 millimeters of thread on it. Whereas the nozzle, the, the, the, the nozzles that came
with some of my, some of my new plastic were only like eight millimeters total,
thread and mall. And I’m going, maybe I need to be looking at the right nozzles for my printer.
First off, and second, now I’ve got to take the carriage off anyway. So
Frank
Yeah, that’s interesting.
My nozzles, I’ve got some. Give me a second.
Chris
yeah, for our visual listeners, Frank is going over to his drawers and looking,
there, there, there’s the nozzle box. Okay.
Frank
Now these guys are only five millimeters and be surprised if they were marking the nozzles I buy are 13 in length total and the thread is only five.
Chris
Yeah. Okay. That, and that sounds like what I got. But the one that came out of my printer was
like three times as long as my new nozzles. But the length on that was
Frank
I wonder, I wonder if your machine was designed without a heat break, which is odd to me.
Like have you had it apart before.
Chris
nope. I’m going into the black box territory here.
Frank
Me and Andy both have kind of the same setup where you’ve got the going from the bottom to the top.
There’s a… your nozzle and then your heat block.
And then for us, me and Andy, we’ve got what’s called a heat break, which is the ones that I have or full aluminum, but you can get them with multiple metals.
Because the heat doesn’t transfer between metals or metal types as much.
I’ve seen them with three or a trimetal heat break.
Doesn’t matter to me, necessarily.
But that is what our heat sink connects to.
Or it goes inside of the heat sink. So once you’re putting your filament in from the top, it’s going down a little bit of the 3D printer tube, but it goes inside of the heat break and pushes straight into the nozzle from there.
But if your if your threads are going that high, I seriously doubt that there’s even a heat break on your, your heat block.
It might go straight from the nozzle to the to the heat sink.
Chris
I’m, I, I, yeah, I, I don’t think there is because from what I can tell, I’ve, I’ve got like,
maybe, maybe five to five to 10 millimeters somewhere of plastic tube. And then it’s in
the nozzle assembly, the top of the nozzle, but, but it’s at the top of the nozzle, like
the third, you know, 30 millimeter long nozzle.
Frank
Yeah, I think it would be interesting if you shared some pictures of that as you took it apart.
Chris
Yeah, I think I’m going to do that.
Frank
Just because it’s so different from mine and Andy’s and I don’t because Kevin’s is so new, I don’t think he’s going to have to dig into that for a while.
Frank
But I would expect also that the, because he’s got an Ender 3, it’s probably the same general configuration as my CR100.
So just because it’s the same manufacturer, that is interesting.
Chris
Yep. That is interesting. And I’m looking at replacement nozzles and stuff right now. And
yeah, even the replacement ones for my specific one are easily twice as big as what you would
expect…
Frank
Hmm.
Well.
Chris
Standard. hello. And mine does have, mine does have a heat break, but it looks like it’s
included as part of the part of the, oh no, that heat, that heat break is tiny. That’s why. Okay.
I’m going to send you this.
Um,
Frank
Do be do be do.
Chris
Yeah, maybe, maybe that’ll, maybe that’ll show you what that is, but I just texted it to you.
Frank
You couldn’t send it to the discord.
Chris
There, because that wouldn’t make sense.
Frank
Now everybody knows what my ringtone is going to sound like.
Assuming that comes through.
Did you hear my ringtone at all?
Well, might as well tell everyone anyway.
I’ve got the the old dial-up buzz set as my ringtone.
Did I break you Chris?
Chris
The dial up buzz.
Frank
Yeah, for dial up internet.
Chris
Oh, the one that sounds like a robot is being, being disassembled.
Frank
Yes, that one.
Chris
No disassemble.
Frank
That’s not coming through.
It’ll probably up.
There it is.
Also the link that you sent me in text is four pages long.
Chris
Oh, yeah. Oh, it’s not coming through.
Frank
Oh crap.
That is way too much thread.
And that.
Chris
Right. So yeah, those, the nozzles on this are honking huge,
but, and look at how tiny that little heat break that with it, what it is.
And I know that I’ve got that heat sink on the side of my nozzle that does connect to that heat
break, but it’s like just
Frank
So does the heat breaks screw into your nozzle then directly?
Chris
I’m, I’m thinking that the, the very, very end of the nozzle probably goes through the heat
break without that explains why it’s so long.
Okay.
Frank
Oh.
So your heat block is configured differently than most of the heat blocks that I see.
Looking at the third from the bottom picture.
I’ll make this bigger.
So your heat block is basically configured sideways compared to what mine and Andy’s is.
Chris
Yep.
Frank
And where your threaded nozzle goes in is where our what is it the heat resistor, the thermistor that one, the thermistor.
That’s where the thermistor goes into our heat block to warm the thing up.
And you’ve got that adjustment screw on what is the side for you.
And that’s where our nozzle and our heat break thread into.
Chris
Oh.
Frank
Still, I mean, I can kind of see why they would do that because then the whole heat block is heating up the whole nozzle.
Chris
Yep.
Frank
There’s more contact to warm it up at the same time that feels excessive.
Chris
Well, it did come highly recommended as a great amateur starter.
Frank
Trying to be as idiot resistant as possible.
Chris
Yeah, probably, you know, but I’m one of the better idiots.
Frank
Well, the more they create a smarter mousetrap, the more you get smarter mice.
Chris
Geez, but yeah, that, that pretty much sums up my entire week,
at least with 3D printing and the rest was a,
yeah, just normal sleep, chores, work.
Frank
Cars, paint.
Frank
Fun.
All I do is work.
Chris
Yeah, sir.
Frank
Actually, this week, starting after the podcast last week,
I talked about this drift that I printed off for the Bolo that my mother-in-law gave me.
And I didn’t have any more use for it.
And then I remembered, oh yeah, I printed off a small lathe chuck a little while ago.
I wonder if I can compromise this in such a way that it becomes a top just goofing around, right?
Well, the small lathe chuck is too small.
And so I measured things and sized up appropriately and thought, you know, as long as I’m reprinting a lathe chuck and I’m going to be abusing the hell out of it,
I might as well print it solid.
And that’s where everything fell apart.
Chris
Oh, no.
Frank
My printer decided that it was going to clog halfway through the print.
Chris
Halfway through with solid print.
Frank
Yes.
Chris
Awesome.
Frank
And so I abandoned that.
And the project that my wife has asked me to do for the last six months or so was print off some new dust lids
for our bucket and cup collection.
And so because I couldn’t think of anything better, I redesigned my dust lids and I printed off a bunch of those this week.
And that’s all I’ve done.
The dust lids hide real nice on top like they have a lip that goes over the top of the cup or the bucket,
but they’re thin enough and they have like a recessed lower part so they don’t slide around on top of the cup.
Think not quite manhole cover, but the same idea.
Chris
So like gamma lids, but without the threads noise. Oh.
Frank
And I don’t know what a gamma lid is.
Oh, you mean like for the bucket, those gamma lids?
Chris
Yeah. Yep. Those ones.
Frank
No, not like that.
Chris
No. Okay.
Frank
Because the edge of my dust cover doesn’t hang out over the top of the cup.
Chris
Oh, the offset. I get it.
Frank
So it’s not obvious that it’s there.
I mean, they’re vinyl cups, you know, we just, we don’t want to have to clean them out.
And we don’t want them to get nasty the more they’re on top of our cupboards.
So, so just I got it down to two millimeters thick.
So it’s one millimeter for the part that rests on top of the cup and then another millimeter for the part that keeps it steady on top of the cup.
And you can’t even tell they’re there.
Chris
That’s cool.
Frank
And that’s, that’s literally everything I did this week.
And it wasn’t much.
Chris
That, that is the thing, you know,
pull out the, pull out the nice glassware for Thanksgiving every year and got to wash it all beforehand and wash it again after, because it’s always dusty.
Frank
Oh yeah, because it’s been in the curio cabinet so everybody can look at it but not.
I guess it wouldn’t be a curio cabinet though it would be a China cabinet.
That’s the word.
Chris
Yeah, we, we don’t use a China cabinet. We’ve got a little cupboard for all the fancy dishes, but, um, yeah, same, same idea. You know, you put it in the cupboard, a year’s worth of dust or whatever does still end up in the cupboard.
Frank
Interesting how that works out.
Chris
Yeah. Well, they’re not completely sealed. You know, they’re, they’re the soft closed cabinets and there’s probably about a quarter inch or so of space between the door actually being completely sealed shut.
Frank
A corner inch. That is big.
Chris
Mm-hmm. Yeah. It’s got these little, it’s got these little nubs on them that keeps them over open, like maybe somewhere between an eighth and a quarter inch.
And so they’re not actually closed, sealed closed. They’re just closed. They, they, they’re, you know, that’s how
they’re new cupboards. I just kind of assumed that’s how cupboards are now. So
Frank
Most of my cupboards are like, I got some of the eighth inch nubs so that they were easier to catch when you go to open them.
But the soft close aspect to them is like maybe a sixteenth, like at the most thick.
Chris
That’s weird. Yeah, because the nubs on mine are easily eighth, eighth to quarter inch somewhere. So, hmm.
Frank
Oh, that’s odd.
Chris
It’s probably just the, the, the, the brand and whatever else that would chose to go with
Frank
Yeah, that’ll do it.
Chris
but, yeah, that’s the nice thing. I got to roll a TPU for Christmas.
So when these, yep, I can
Frank
So you can print your own at an eighth of an inch thick.
Chris
And, and adjust, yeah, and adjust the, the hinges in a little tighter.
Frank
It just occurred to me, it never, I should have thought of this sooner.
I can make like a modified lip with my 3D printer.
I should have thought of this sooner.
A better way to open a cupboard that doesn’t have a handle on it.
Wow Frank, I’m probably going to forget by the time I get to talking to my wife about it anyway.
Chris
Yeah, just
Frank
Another thing to put on the honeydew list now that I’ve finished one thing.
Chris
Yeah, I, I, I, um, oh, I, I don’t think I told you, you know, the other week I showed you guys the, the clean-dirty signs for the dishwasher. I’d print it up, looked kind of crummy while I, because I’d printed it multiple times, I just cleaned it up.
And glued old hard drive magnets to them. And so now, yeah. So now my wife’s sisters have, have one and her, her folks have one and my coworker has one.
Frank
Right.
Chris
And then I printed one up for her and, and her nice purple plastic. And she’s decided to, that we’re going to use it. Yay.
Frank
Of course, we got one of those for our wedding.
I think it was.
And we don’t use it.
It’s on the dishwasher and we put dishes in it and run the dishwasher and we don’t store dishes in it before it runs.
So if there’s anything in it, they’re clean and they just need to be put away.
Chris
Mine’s like that too. Like, it always says clean. And I’m, I’m loading up the dishwasher. You know, it actually makes more sense.
Fisc… Fisc… as fiskally, that’s not the word I’m looking for, financially.
Anyway, it makes more sense to, you know, as far as wasting water and soap and stuff like that to just have it full, but not too full, so that the dishes get clean, but you’re using the most of the, the space on the water.
Anyway, so there’s that certain point, like it’s, it’s every second or third day for us, pretty much, where there’s enough dishes to have it full.
But I feel, I fill it full and flip it from clean to dirty while I’m filling it. And then I close it and push the button and flip it back to clean.
Frank
Well, I mean, I guess that works.
Chris
Right.
Chris
But I mostly mostly growing up, I never had a dishwasher. And when I finally did, I was already.
It was right before I met you in high school. And so the dishwasher my dad did have in his house was probably a very early 90s model late 80s.
Frank
So functional, but not pretty.
Chris
Didn’t, it didn’t do, it didn’t clean. Yeah, it did not clean dishes very well.
And I was always backing.
Frank
Modern dishwashers don’t clean dishes anyway.
FYI.
Chris
Yeah, I know.
Frank
It’s called a dishwasher, but that’s not what they do.
Chris
It’s a dish sanitizer.
Frank
Right.
So we have had this conversation before.
Chris
Well, this, this is exactly it is, yeah, my, my, my dad goes, whatever you put in that dishwasher, it better be clean.
When you put it in there, because this thing only just this thing doesn’t actually clean them. And he wasn’t wrong.
And anytime somebody did put dirty dishes in and run them and run them and run them till they were clean stuff always got backed up.
Frank
Half of the soap was gone and the drain was clogged.
Chris
Yeah, the tray was clogged, you got to pull the tray out and clean it and no.
Frank
Oh, pass.
At least you’re dead. Was he an engineer by then?
Chris
And
Yes.
Frank
Okay. So he knew exactly how to take it apart in such a way that he may not be able to get it back together.
Chris
Yep, just enough to know how to put it back together but he, but he actually never really messed with it a whole lot. And yeah, about and he had it for like forever to he only got rid of it like maybe three years ago, four years ago maybe.
And he did that because it rotted a hole in his floor.
Frank
Yeah, I can see how that would be a problem.
Chris
We had to, yeah, we had, we had to pull all his cabinets out and cut a big hole in his floor and patch all of his actual all of his sub floor and then put the cabinets back and got himself a new dishwasher.
Oh, the fun.
Frank
Yeah, that’s one word for it.
Well, I think you and I taking 45 minutes for the two of us is probably going to be a little long.
Chris
Wow.
That’s a that’s an earmark. I wasn’t sure we were actually going to hit that.
Frank
Well, after I truncate, that’s the word after I truncate all the silence, it might be closer to 40, but probably not too much.
Yeah, what do you say we call it for this week?
Chris
And I’ll let you know, as I take my printer apart I was, I was halfway through the dang headphone project. I printed off two headphones racks, I needed like three more, and then maybe a couple of hooks.
Frank
Right.
Chris
I got a little irritated that I was getting too many Gimplies and poor quick print quality. So.
Frank
Yeah, that’s indicative of a bigger problem if it’s been working already, at least for a little while.
Chris
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, I mean I was in the middle of printing this and that was when it broke. I did the dish things and I’m, and I’m like okay I’m really sick of getting low quality prints no matter what adjustments I make I has to be the nozzle.
Frank
Well, don’t forget that I spent three months hunting everything down and being in denial that it was my heat block. So.
Chris
Yeah. Well, I’m pretty sure I must have messed up my heat block taking that big old hunk and guy out and just so you know, it’s really long. It was actually had had a lot of heat wear and it was really crusty on all the threads coming out.
So that’s what has me a little concerned. So.
Frank
Yeah, that would have me concerned too. Rusty?
Chris
Crusty.
Frank
Crusty. Still, like, like plastic in the threads old plastic and ash from
Chris
Yeah, it’s like, but yeah, yeah, it’s got like, yeah, yeah, like old burnt up crusty. Like, have you ever cleaned out the bottom of your toaster tray, you know, the little black stuff at the very, very bottom.
And that’s what it was like are all around the threads on my nozzle.
Frank
Given how long your nozzle is, when you replace it with another longer nozzle, it might be worth your time to make sure that your heat break touches the nozzle, because I feel like that would contribute to some of those crusties.
I mean, them not being touching each other because then you got plastic filling the void, and then it’s burning off instead of going down your nozzle.
Chris
Yeah, well it shouldn’t have been a thing in the first place because this is as it was from the factory. So I should.
Frank
You just used a word, particularly inappropriate word.
And we were doing so good about watching our language.
Chris
We should have had a full episode without it without it. Right.
Frank
Yeah, could have should have would have.
Chris
All right, let’s call it.
Frank
All right, let’s call this before we get any farther off the rails here.
We’d like to thank everyone for listening to the very end.
Chris
Very, very end shorter this week.
Frank
If you like, oh yeah, much shorter by like 20 minutes, at least, maybe 30.
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Chris
Keep your FEP tight.
Always use hairspray.
And… Polly’s here. Polly’s leaving…
Polly’s gone.
Frank
Polly want want a cracker.
Chris
Polly gone. Polly gone. Polly gone.
Frank
Oh, polygon.
I was impatient. I’m sorry. I ruined your joke.
Chris
Oh, man, that one was.
That was a.
That was a little far afield anyway.
Frank
Yeah, but I was impatient. If I had waited for one more, you would have gotten there.
I’m sorry.
This is why we need four panelists.